I remember last year he was kept out for ages with a groin injury then he got this hip one which he needed to see a specialist for.

thanks, I guess in 18 months we can make a judgement.

Berrigans Bitch with some very dubious posts in this thread as usual. Not the only one though.

Really good signing, to those who question the length of the deal, if we didn't snap him up on that length of contract its almost certain somebody else would have. Welcome aboard Eamon.

Did I say that, not disputing it but i don't book mark my posts, you clearly do with mine??

Like I said it depends, lose Moa and replace him with O'Carroll then yes shocking. Signed as 5th choice prop, good signing.

Depends on the context.

Yes you did.....along with 'we might as well not bother with a reserve side' suggesting you think his signing would be keeping our young lads out.

Anyway....only jesting with ya fella, just picked up on it this morning when I was looking to see who started the original O'Carroll rumour

How dare that berrigans bitch have a different opinion...tut, tut

Wait to see it in Dowes' though.

really good signing not only for now but for the future i still feel we need a young english backrower along with lynch and the pack is sorted

So was O'carroll Mcrae's signing ?

Just keep it quiet and then everyone can just blame Rich in a couple of years if he doesn't work out.

no mention of Agar in the press release

I don`t think I can remember us signing a player without someone slagging them off before they get here t.b.h.

same with Gentle already (and he hasn't been officially announced)

I don't see the point of getting rid of Luaki for someone who has had a very serious injury in such a short career to be an interchange forward. At least Luaki has been available all season when required even if he always hasn't performed to his best.

for me we still need a backrower and we have a non fed or whatever left so keeping lauaki for a year on a reduced deal would be a good option for me unless we can get better for next year

We need Lauaki (if staying) to be somewhere between the lunatic penalty machine that joined us and the "nice guy" who seems to have had the aggression coached out of him that we've got now. If we could get that back and stop him stepping when he take the ball up, he'd be brilliant.

Anyone got the "PepperHame" picture?

we can assume that O'Carroll will be on far less wages and is also classed as home grown.

totally agree we need to see a little more controlled agreesion back in his game but theres so much potentially in him and who knows under a new coach we may see more from him and play him in the back row where hes at his best.

I hope we keep him but fear the deal is done with Wigan

it looks likely but if we did keep him then our pack would be complete and be really good
8.omeley
9.houghton
10.lynch
11.westy
12.manu
13.tickle
subs
14.heremia
15.moa
16.ocarrol
17.lauaki
thats a really strong pack and with the likes of turner, horne, radford with the young ones making up the rest of the squad.

Or Widnes I'm hearing. Don't think he will be a bad loss to us. OK player but nothing special.

I think he has it but Agar has not used him right..he needs to be allowed to play aggressive rugby, he actually is quite quick with good hands..When I watched him play international he looked like a different player he was really good, I have only seen glimpses of that at Hull, I think he could be an asset under the right coach.

True but I would be a little concerned if we only bring in Lynch and O'Carroll with Fitz, Lauaki and Dowes all leaving. It leaves us a little light in the way of cover IMO.

Time will tell on the O'Carroll signing. Personally I'm pretty concerned about his injuries, mainly because FC's recent history is not that great in the department of taking risks on players with poor injury records. Good that most Wigan fans seem to rate him, mind.

when he played in the right backrow last year he set up a number of tries on that rigth edge due to his size but more importantly his skill, hes not a middle man thats going to bang people about like your moas and ogres do but hes skillfull got great hands and has decent footwork for me i want see him in tha backrow where hes at his best