By the way, I was responding to "Ollie" who suggested that people didn't realise that Crusaders wouldn't see any of the money for Summut as they were in administration - which they are not.

You mean our half backs have a blinder on Sunday against Donny and Agar decides we dont need any cover?

Think he means Kath and Rule want it to happen but Agars not keen

You talking about signing Sammut?

sorry,i meant to quote the other poster too!

We offered 50k plus Washy, Crusaders said they would accept 40k without him

Yes

Bit ambitious I would say but a big signing still to come? www.newsnow.co.uk/A/470689498?-4338

Bit ambitious I would say but a big signing still to come? www.newsnow.co.uk/A/470689498?-4338

Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Bit ambitious I would say but a big signing still to come? www.newsnow.co.uk/A/470689498?-4338'" loving the fact that Hall's move to KR is equated with being retired! he may as well have done

Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Bit ambitious I would say but a big signing still to come? www.newsnow.co.uk/A/470689498?-4338'" loving the fact that Hall's move to KR is equated with being retired! he may as well have done

According to a good source at Crusaders Sammut going nowhere, Chase still staying at Cas. Reckon Obst now best choice looks like Wakefield could do with the cash and quickly, hope Fc do sign someone or the forth coming Derby could be a very one sided affair,especially as Horne is still 50/50 and your key senior players are been rested.

I quite like Obst, personally. The issue would be losing our last overseas spot and thereby missing the chance to sign anyone better who might become available in mid-season.

If we've lowered the bar as far as Obst now, then we do have real problems !!!



He would be an adequate squad/cover player if he didn't take up a quota spot.

This season is going to be a very long one if we go with what we have now + 1 or 2 Obst-like signings.

2012 looks like our next chance to compete on a serious level and that is more than depressing for a club the size of ours !!!

I can't see how it would be worth taking a punt on Obst, but not on Gareth Moore.
We've had a year to target half back cover, & here we are scrambling around with 3 weeks to go.

We've had since Cooke left to target a proper scrum half and failed miserably , what make's you think next season or the season after will be any different. If Agar' one Man One Vision' can get one after all this time, why the optimism?

Sean Long isnt a proper scrum half?

Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Bit ambitious I would say but a big signing still to come? www.newsnow.co.uk/A/470689498?-4338'" Struggling to see why anyone would predict us finishing above Leeds with only last season and the respective recruitment to go on.

Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Bit ambitious I would say but a big signing still to come? www.newsnow.co.uk/A/470689498?-4338'" Struggling to see why anyone would predict us finishing above Leeds with only last season and the respective recruitment to go on.

Maybe people think Leeds with McDermott in charge and missing both Peacock and McGuire for a fair chunk of the season may not be the same beast as recent years?

If we hadn't lost berrigan then obst would have been an OK back up hooker/half back, but we now have significant money to play with and obst would be a big disappointment, especially if we pay a fee for him

Sam Obst wouldn't count on the non-fed list as he's been here since 2004. We have plenty of space left on the quota (Lauaki, Manu and Moa are exempt from the quota, not non-fed).

We could sign Obst AND another non-fed player.

Obst?????????????

You are fookin joking??

Then again.. Average Team = Average Player...

Obst as a back up is better than any option we have at the moment. He won't take up a non-fed place, so I don't see the harm in bringing him in if he's available.

Possibly, but I don't personally see much (if anything) between McDermott and Agar, they were without Peacock for a while last year but still coped fairly well, and I'd take their half-back situation over ours every day of the week and twice on matchdays.

I just mean that I can't see where we've strengthened since last season that has made us stronger than Leeds. If Leeds do happen to drop down the table from last year, would you honestly say that you'd have us down as the team to overtake them?

Obst ok if we wanna aim for top 10 Finish..

Top 4 I think not..

I think it is difficult to call.

I would have Wigan and Warrington ahead of the crowd with maybe Saints not far behind but then any one of the Giants, Leeds, Hull, Rovers or the Bulls will compete for 4th place IMO.

Injuries DO play a part and I have seen McGuire change the course of enough games to realise he will be a big loss alongside Jamie Peacock.

I would agree with all that. To back up the injury statement i would say that Saints first choice 17 is more than a match for Wigan and Wire but over the course of a season they wont finish above them.