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| Quote ="hull smallears"Feel free to beat her at the next game, I'll hold her down!'"
Wear gloves, Ovid has swine flu!
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| Agar said:
[i"We are under-performing, but it is times like this when we need their help more than ever. Without doubt it has a detrimental effect on the team."[/i
What would he like us to do, come down and take training for him?
The guy has obviously lost the dressing room, he's now lost most of the fan-base. It surely can't be long before the board realise this fact and demand some sort of action.
The simple thing would be to get Agar to fall on his sword, we then have the problem of a replacement. I have no doubt that the board would take the simple (and consequently cheap) way out and either promote Last or get Sharp to take the helm. Either option would be akin to rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
It seems obvious that Bomber's "cancer" has not reacted to any treatment over the years; that is purely a board problem. Rule, Kath and anyone else on the board, have had the opportunity to change things, they chose to go with the flow.
Well, the flow has now determined that the septic tank has backed up, it's time to call the gulley-emptier in. They can start at the top because that is where floats
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| Quote ="Standee""mitigating factors"
Yes, Richard, you are crap, inept and clueless.'"
Couldn't agree more, I admit I was concerned that if was a risky appointment when they named him as head coach so soon after Sharps dismissal but still backed him to do a good job. Now I have lost all faith in him as the coac of the club.
As for his comments about the fans I would just say I think he has more important things to worry about than the people who hand over their hard earned to watch the dross that he and his merry blokes have turned out this year.
I suggest Mr Agar and the players who are letting the side down actually go out onto the pitch and play as if it atuallys means something to them and gve the fans something to get behind.
I'm all for "In any kind of weather" but thats doesn't mean blind faith.
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| Storm in a tea cup for mine. Fans will think 'what a to$$er' when they see the headline *Hull FC fans frustrate Agar* but imo it's just another dumb and brainless statement from him anyway. Needs to think twice next time he deviates from the standard bi-weekly statement of: 'yeah boys bin training 'ard in the park this week you know'.
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| The man's a joke end of !!
There is a famous old statement that goes along the lines of ..if you are an idiot, keep your mouth shout so as not to prove that you are.
Agar would have done well to heed this warning.
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| I feel sorry for him.... LIKE FECK I DO
I feel sorry for the team.....LIKE FECK I DO
I FEEL SORRY FOR US FANS THAT ARE WASTING OUR MONEY WATCHING THE SAME GARBAGE AND LISTENING TO THE SAME GARBAGE.
If this was a business other than a sports team , the shop would be empty with few customers ready to spend their money on a poor product
GORDON RAMSEY FOR COACH he's used to saving dying businesses.
I myself was sat thinking with 20 mins to go after my friend walked out, what games have we got left at home. Huddersfield, Harlequins and Bradford. Which ones can I be bothered to go to. ANSWER NONE
I've missed 2 home games this season which equals the number I have missed in the last 34 years. Add 3 more to the total I can't be bothered to pay to watch you anymore.
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Feel free to beat her at the next game, I'll hold her down!'"
Never knew you felt like that "Smallears" - you must be desperate!
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"I had to listen on radio and I kept hearing cheers when Hull did something wrong and especially when Celtic scored.
Irony at it's best but is usually reserved for a top of the table team when they are getting beat by poor opposition not a crap team being beaten by even worse dog poo.
We are at a low ebb and agar is not good enough poor bloke.
Agar to U21s now with Sharp and Last until end of miserable season.
Next week ......glad I am on holiday as Morgan ( our next coach) will make it 7 out of 10 derby wins since they came up - which is a disgrace in itself'" Who says the drugs dont work
But back on topic I dont think his comments help and I did raise an eyebrow when I read them this morning.
TBH Im not sure what he hoped to achive by saying what he did.
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| FC fans are well known to be passionate. That works both ways. When we see a team giving 100%, they get our full support.
When we see a team turning in dire performances (time & time again), they get criticism.
Some of the favourites at the Boulevard were players who were not blessed with world beating ability, but always gave everything to the cause(a la Chico Jackson).
We pay top dollar in a bad economic climate, & supporters have every right to voice their opinion.
To be honest, most people I know have complete indifference to the club at the moment.
To me, this incident has echoes of Peter Sharp & his house on Manly beach comment. I don't think he ever recovered from that, & Agar will need to turn things round pretty quickly to avoid a backlash building up in the same way. I think the end game has begun..............
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| Quote ="Irregular Hoops"FC fans are well known to be passionate. That works both ways. When we see a team giving 100%, they get our full support.
When we see a team turning in dire performances (time & time again), they get criticism.
Some of the favourites at the Boulevard were players who were not blessed with world beating ability, but always gave everything to the cause(a la Chico Jackson).
We pay top dollar in a bad economic climate, & supporters have every right to voice their opinion.
To be honest, most people I know have complete indifference to the club at the moment.
To me, this incident has echoes of Peter Sharp & his house on Manly beach comment. I don't think he ever recovered from that, & Agar will need to turn things round pretty quickly to avoid a backlash building up in the same way. I think the end game has begun..............'"
Totally agree
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| Quote ="Irregular Hoops"FC fans are well known to be passionate. That works both ways. When we see a team giving 100%, they get our full support.
When we see a team turning in dire performances (time & time again), they get criticism.
Some of the favourites at the Boulevard were players who were not blessed with world beating ability, but always gave everything to the cause(a la Chico Jackson).
We pay top dollar in a bad economic climate, & supporters have every right to voice their opinion.
To be honest, most people I know have complete indifference to the club at the moment.
To me, this incident has echoes of Peter Sharp & his house on Manly beach comment. I don't think he ever recovered from that, & Agar will need to turn things round pretty quickly to avoid a backlash building up in the same way. I think the end game has begun..............'"
Hope your right.
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| I wonder if the Hull Daily Mail will do a special "dont forget to cheer on the lads and sing till the end of the game" petition/charter/sign here/buy the paper like they did for City!
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| Quote ="Irregular Hoops"FC fans are well known to be passionate. That works both ways. When we see a team giving 100%, they get our full support.
When we see a team turning in dire performances (time & time again), they get criticism.
Some of the favourites at the Boulevard were players who were not blessed with world beating ability, but always gave everything to the cause(a la Chico Jackson).
We pay top dollar in a bad economic climate, & supporters have every right to voice their opinion.
To be honest, most people I know have complete indifference to the club at the moment.
To me, this incident has echoes of Peter Sharp & his house on Manly beach comment. I don't think he ever recovered from that, & Agar will need to turn things round pretty quickly to avoid a backlash building up in the same way. I think the end game has begun..............'"
"It might not be the beginning,
it might not be the end,
but it is the beginning of the end."
Sir Winston knew what he was on about.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Interesting that I'm a hypocrite for daring to criticise performances and the coach's reaction to fans yet you come on here almost daily and have a go at paul king. What's the definition of a hypocrite again?
I'm not twisting anything. The fact is that the performances from the players have been unacceptable for months. The fans have continued to turn up in droves, following them around the country because they love the club. IMO, the crowd reaction last night was very tame given the dross served up.
agar is paid to do a job of coaching the team, not passing comment on the fact he isn't happy that the fans are voicing their opinions of him and the players.
And perhaps you can give me some evidence of when a top class coach has turned us down because the fans have been critical of under par performances under previous coaches? Or maybe you can give your opinion on why tony smith took the wire job after seeing the way the fans reacted to cullen on SKY?
Don't be so naive. Coaches know that they will be critcised by fans if things aren't going right. It's part and parcel of the job. If he can't stand the heat he should stay out of the kitchen'"
At what point am I a hypocrit for not thinking King justifies his place, I have not changed that opinion for about 4 years now
As I mentioned, if you had previously come out and said it was wrong for the coach / club to comment on loyalty of fans and how appreciative the team / club has been in the past you would have a point. But you don't.
BTW, ever wondered why we are linked with quite a few big name aussies, yet very few big names ever turn up
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| Quote ="UllFC"what a load of balls...last year the majority of the team played at Wembley in front of 80,000, live on terrestrial tv to a few million, and they didn't do a bad job of it.
why the hell would they be 'nervous' in front of the lowest crowd of the year, at home, in a game against the bottom side?
its a lazy excuse for how unproffesional and badly coached the side are'"
Crowd size has knack all to do with it. The players confidence is shot to ribbons. Any crowd getting negative would have a similar impact
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Agar said:
[i"We are under-performing, but it is times like this when we need their help more than ever. Without doubt it has a detrimental effect on the team."[/i
What would he like us to do, come down and take training for him?
The guy has obviously lost the dressing room, he's now lost most of the fan-base. It surely can't be long before the board realise this fact and demand some sort of action.
The simple thing would be to get Agar to fall on his sword, we then have the problem of a replacement. I have no doubt that the board would take the simple (and consequently cheap) way out and either promote Last or get Sharp to take the helm. Either option would be akin to rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
It seems obvious that Bomber's "cancer" has not reacted to any treatment over the years; that is purely a board problem. Rule, Kath and anyone else on the board, have had the opportunity to change things, they chose to go with the flow.
Well, the flow has now determined that the septic tank has backed up, it's time to call the gulley-emptier in. They can start at the top because that is where floats'"
Dave B, back to his very best
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"At what point am I a hypocrit for not thinking King justifies his place, I have not changed that opinion for about 4 years now
As I mentioned, if you had previously come out and said it was wrong for the coach / club to comment on loyalty of fans and how appreciative the team / club has been in the past you would have a point. But you don't. '"
I said the coach shouldn't criticise the fans. End of. You can disagree all you want but he's shot himself in the foot with a large amount of the fan base. ergo it was the wrong thing to do both morally (given he's in charge of the dirge we've had to watch all season), and from any measure of a common sense action from an under fire coach. I am right
Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"BTW, ever wondered why we are linked with quite a few big name aussies, yet very few big names ever turn up
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Is it because we don't hand out brown paper bags full of cash every Friday?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I said the coach shouldn't criticise the fans. End of. You can disagree all you want but he's shot himself in the foot with a large amount of the fan base. ergo it was the wrong thing to do both morally (given he's in charge of the dirge we've had to watch all season), and from any measure of a common sense action from an under fire coach. I am right
Is it because we don't hand out brown paper bags full of cash every Friday?'"
Not saying he hasn't shot himself in the foot, just that he can voice his opinion.
I can actually remember Brian Smith muttering some discontent at the fans reaction to some thing at a game at Widnes (the game has previously been postponed at the last minute, when the rearranged match took place it belted it down and we got stuffed). He basically questioned the fans loyalty. Of course Brian Smith was a well liked and a good coach. But thats the only difference here.
With regard to your second comment, you would be amazed just how bad the clubs reputation is down under for many reasons
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| Thankfully I missed Friday's game - judging by reports of the team's performance it sounded totally dire. The reaction of some fans cheering the opposition was equally dire by the sounds of it.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Thankfully I missed Friday's game - judging by reports of the team's performance it sounded totally dire. The reaction of some fans cheering the opposition was equally dire by the sounds of it.'"
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| Quote ="emmab0708"they cheered the opposition? you cant be serious. out of order imo'"
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| Quote ="barton baird"You are John McEnroe and I claim my £5'"
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Not saying he hasn't shot himself in the foot, just that he can voice his opinion.
I can actually remember Brian Smith muttering some discontent at the fans reaction to some thing at a game at Widnes (the game has previously been postponed at the last minute, when the rearranged match took place it belted it down and we got stuffed). He basically questioned the fans loyalty. Of course Brian Smith was a well liked and a good coach. But thats the only difference here.'"
He should have the brain not to voice his opinion. It nearly always ends in tears
Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"With regard to your second comment, you would be amazed just how bad the clubs reputation is down under
for many reasons'"
Must be terrible with 3 former kangaroos in for next season
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"He should have the brain not to voice his opinion. It nearly always ends in tears
Must be terrible with 3 [size=150former[/size kangaroos in for next season
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Key word pointed out.
On that rationale, we have 4 former GB players, just about all of which look well suited to NL at the moment. Everythings going to be ok then
We have been linked with Mason and Civonaceva who were still current test players at the time. We end up with Dads army.
Hull FC are seens as an easy option to Aussies as they know its an easy end to their career. No discipline from top to bottom. And if you get pulled into line by someone on the board you fake and injury or two
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| Quote ="emmab0708"they cheered the opposition? you cant be serious. out of order imo'" yes the fans was cheering the opposition i felt very uncomftable with it but each to there own
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