Most of the laws have been in years but teams have just smartened up exploited the laws already there

You could for years catch a team offside by the second row holding the ball at their feet and the defence would then think it's out and encroach and be penalised
But they would be entitled to move as soon as it passes the second rows feet and is at loose forwards feet and entitled to go for it

I would of liked to see a law that if a team quickly pack six players and have a scrum half there to stop the clock at scrum the same players must remain there and form the scrum for that scrum and not wander off and players swap places.

1) Why don't teams tap the ball with their knees as it is quicker and legal to do so at 20m restarts?

2) why don't teams simply move the mark back at a tap penalty to as far back as they want as the defence has to stay 10m from original message mark instead of kicking the ball backwards into touch when near opposition goal line which allows defence to set themselves 10m from the new mark ( I understand sometimes it is advantageous when penalty is nearer than 10m from touch to kick it into touch to get more width at second phase tap) but not just when it's near the goal line?!

It actually isn't legal. The 20m restart is actually called a 20m optional kick. You can either play the ball to yourself by tapping the foot (the kick bit) or by hoofing it straight downfield and maybe hoping to get it into touch after a bounce (and recovering possession).

With you on this. Maybe next year.

Yes but seen as you can tap the ball anywhere between your toe and your knee shin included it is legal!

The referees also need to ENFORCE the rule whereby the player actually puts the ball on the ground and plays it with his foot. It might encourage more craft from dummy half rather than endless scoots.

Totally agree. Still teaching kids from 5 yrs old to play the ball with foot only to see the professionals continually not bothering. Would help to clean the ruck up imo and like you say maybe encourage more creative play

Totally agree and it would only take a couple of video referee decisions of not awarding trys because at the previous play the ball it wasn't played with the foot and all players would make sure they played the ball correctly plus the added bonus the players wouldn't know if the next play they were going to score and be refered to video so would make sure they played the ball

All well and good enforcing a correct PTB but the sloppy ones are often a countermeasure to all the wrestling and other interference to prevent the ball being played. Can't have one without the other. Ironic the suggestion comes from a Pies fan, the team that has done more than any other to ruin the PTB.

We'll be buggered then. In a top 5 of players that don't play the ball propey talsnoa Fonua and watts would all be in tbf

don't agree to be honest. At the end of the day no matter how much wrestling occurs on the floor you have to regain your feet. Majority of the time the player could play the ball with his foot but just doesn't bother as he knows the rule is never enforced. A few penalties against would soon sort it out. Would you fancy facing Radders after game if a loss came down to not playing a ball correctly. Time we stopped making excuses for not enforcing a simple rule

Who cares if someone actually plays the ball with their foot or not? We should be getting to grips with the tactics that slow the game down, not those that speed it up

If we have players having to play the ball with the foot properly then the officials absolutely have to enforce the defending team not to encroach before the ball actually is in the hands of the DH. That players rarely put their foot on the ball as mentioned above is to not only counter the shenanigans at the ruck but the encroachment of the defending teams that refs/tocuhies rarely enforce properly.
That narrowing down of the 10metres is what stunts free and open play as well as markers that are blatently not standing square.

Would like to see the attacking team get penalised when the player clearly moves off the mark meaning the square markers are no longer square. To many times last season the penalty went the wrong way. Wigan (especially charnley) were masters of it

Got to agree with that. And it can be done.....

moving of the mark and walking half a dozen steps needs sorting out ,

2 Ref system like the Aussies, simple, sorted

We don't have enough quality refs as it is without having to field twice as many.

Agree with this as its an area that really needs to be sorted by the officials along with a number of players now releasing the ball in a tackle just to gain a penalty.

I also agree strongly with this. Or at least I hope Rovers get better at it!

There's players who make impressive yards after contact, and there's those that do it after the tackle. The problem is, if a player 'stumbles' at worst the ref sends him back - it's rarely penalised. Obviously there's the risk of penalising a genuine stumble, but the way things are going it is worth it.

Pretty sure theirs 10 decent refs out there, just thr rfl been the rfl are to tight and lazy to find them, lack of quality is a feeble excuse not to implement same rules as the aussies, same goes for not having video ref for everygame, its a joke, 4th ref could cover that on tv monito, dont even need the big screen for non tv games

Was watching the union 7's last weekend and a lot of their refs are ex players and it told. Some of them was in as good nick as the players. They kept up with play and knew how to talk to the players. About time the rfl provided a clear path way for ex players a chance to stay involved and even earn a decent living from the game. Surely theres some lower league players who wouldn't mind reffing a grand final if the option was a serious one. Something needs changing as at the moment the standard has not kept up with the progression of the modern game

Difference is that most RU pro players are ex public schoolboys with a decent education whilst most RL players struggle to string a sentence together

You've been spending far to much time in golf clubs of a Sunday afternoon Jakester.
It shows.

You reckon? The school I went to was only marginally better than the one you attended

If they did recruit ex players to become referees the RFL would only look at Wigan and Leeds as they do for everything LOL