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| Smailes in the HDM suggests he’s a tall rangy player, however in the video clips and photos I’ve seen of him he doesn’t seem to be particularly big. Has he been watching the same player?
He does appear to travel well with the ball in hand and appears to have a bit of a step. Hopefully he'll prove to be an astute signing.
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| It should also help Jacob settle in a bit more - allaying fears that he wants out.
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| Quote ="Monko"Hopefully the two young lads can move us around the park and attack the opposition line. It will be nice to see two young halfbacks running around and organising play. Fingers crossed but hand on heart I have no concerns now in the halfback areas. Welcome to Hull.'"
See thats the thing, neither of these players are organising half backs, you could end with two headless chickens directing you around the park.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Not a major coup by any means, good young player who will provide good balance alongside Miller. More of a running half and can kick. Horne will also provide useful experience.
Glad to see us going with youth rather than signing a Leon Pryce.'"
Or even the Leon Pryce.
Welcome to Hull Jordan
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| I think two halves with running games will work well4 us. Can see rads looking to implement more of an offload and 2nd phase game. The two halves running and sniffing about along with shaul should make us more of a threat to opposition
We must be one of the youngest teams in the league now?
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| Quote ="major black"Spot on, definately a few question marks. The biggest one for me is can Miller bring some game management to the team now Holdsworth's gone and it looks as if our search for a 7 has ended with a 6/1.'"
Ranking has come in to play 6 hasnt he with Miller 7?? It was search for a 6 for once.
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| Will be interesting to see how he gets on having played the majority of his first grade games in the NRL at Full Back. Could be a very astute signing, lets hope so.
Welcome to the club Jordan.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"See thats the thing, neither of these players are organising half backs, you could end with two headless chickens directing you around the park.'"
Yes it is a worry having 2 junior rep halfbacks rather than a thug and a hooker!
There's no reason this partnership couldn't become the best in the league, other than the fact they'll be utterly dependent on our forwards dominating games.
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| Radders obviously hasn't had the carte blanche Bomber and Gentle were bequeathed.
Happy with another young playmaker with Horney there doing his thing.
May need time (again) but optimism is the way forward.
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| Quote ="heard1989"Ranking has come in to play 6 hasnt he with Miller 7?? It was search for a 6 for once.'"
It looks that way but I thought the search was for a vocal 7 ( the one voice AP talked about) to lead us about. Would probably have preferred an experience out an out 7 (if one exists). Either way, I'm happy to see Miller given a chance and Rankin looks like he could exploit situations on quick second phase plays as another poster has already alluded too.
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| Welcome to Hull FC Jordan and good luck!!
Leaves us with two in-experienced halves but they are former team mates so this could work out well, plus we've got experience from Horne & Heramaia to help out.
Have to see how things pan out but this Team has potential to do well in 2014
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| Miller will organise next year, having a full pre-season will help him massively and he will be one to lead us around the park, watching the clips, I think Rankin will do the most of the long kicking. I'd also like to see us use Houghton and Heremia more kickign from dummy half as they both have decent long kicking games.
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| welcome aboard rankin, am getting exited about the new season, mind you i do every year lol, coyh
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| Hopefully by the time both Rankin and Miller are out of contract at least one (hopefully both) of Tyson Wilson and Dean will be ready for SL.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"See thats the thing, neither of these players are organising half backs, you could end with two headless chickens directing you around the park.'"
Not seen much of us over the last 6 years then. Its a gamble but at least the club are trying.
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| Quote ="major black"It looks that way but I thought the search was for a vocal 7 ( the one voice AP talked about) to lead us about. Would probably have preferred an experience out an out 7 (if one exists). Either way, I'm happy to see Miller given a chance and Rankin looks like he could exploit situations on quick second phase plays as another poster has already alluded too.'"
I do think people are forgetting that during last season, Miller was the one telling people what to do etc.. He was telling Holdsworth what to do..
I do feel having Miller an Rankin could be an exciting partnership with Horne the older Experienced one there to support them.
With all the signings we've made, hate on me all you like but i've got a gd feeling we will do well next year. Trophies don't no but consistency will be the key again.
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| I hope the fans give this guy and Miller a chance, and not start booing or getting on their back.
next season is going to be another mid-table 'transition' year and the fans have to accept that fact. We have made a lot of interesting gambles on the signings front, and while many may work there's always the chance that a couple of them won't.
The big positive is that the squad is one of the youngest we've had since the early days at the KC, with only Ellis, Feka, Horne, Heremaia & Yeaman over 30.
I'd be happy with another 6th place finish next season IF we show massive improvements in our style of play and look to be building something for the season after.
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| Miller needs an experienced head around him not a fellow junior who will need time to settle yet be expected to move the team around.
I hope I'm wrong put Paea/Tuson aside the recruitment is either desperate or completed by people who have no contacts.
And all this Brisbane and St George wanted him but he chose us speal, yea right.
But good luck to the lad and welcome.
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| The fact he was captain for Aussie schoolboys gives me great hope. You don't captain them unless your a cracking player whilst must also have some leadership qualities about him. I'm happy with this signing with what is available I think we have done alright & at least have some options now to cover injuries & loss of form. Miller needs to stand up & be counted next year but if these two click we could have a very exciting halfback combination & one that could be the cornerstone of our team for the next few years.
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| great to be signing young players. Potentially we could put out a very young side:-
Shaul 21
Lineham 22
Crooks 20
Arundul 22
Crookes 23
Miller 21
Rankin 21
Green 23
Houghton 25
Watts 23
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Throw in the experience of Pea, Ellis, Whiting, Horne etc,
Can only be good for the future,
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| Quote ="GEvans75"Miller needs an experienced head around him not a fellow junior who will need time to settle yet be expected to move the team around.
I hope I'm wrong put Paea/Tuson aside the recruitment is either desperate or completed by people who have no contacts.
And all this Brisbane and St George wanted him but he chose us speal, yea right.
But good luck to the lad and welcome.'"
Don't think its an issue of lack of contacts, there just simply isn't the talent available.
The only team that has made significant moves in the market is Salford, who have generally signed players over 30 and the controversial Chase & Hock. Apart from that the only signing that creates interest is Masoe Masoe at Saints, but i've only been aware of him due to his performances for Samoa. Aside from that its just a string of unknown Aussies coming, the same squad players moving teams, or teams snapping up players London have released.
Its not like 3-4 years ago where we could sign SOO, ex-Test players like Berrigan, Crocker, Fitzgiboon & O'Meley, the market just isn't there any more.
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| Quote ="UllFC"Don't think its an issue of lack of contacts, there just simply isn't the talent available.
The only team that has made significant moves in the market is Salford, who have generally signed players over 30 and the controversial Chase & Hock. Apart from that the only signing that creates interest is Masoe Masoe at Saints, but i've only been aware of him due to his performances for Samoa. Aside from that its just a string of unknown Aussies coming, the same squad players moving teams, or teams snapping up players London have released.
Its not like 3-4 years ago where we could sign SOO, ex-Test players like Berrigan, Crocker, Fitzgiboon & O'Meley, the market just isn't there any more.'"
Saints recruit has been excellent, they have signed 3 players Amor, Masoe and Walsh. The two NRL players were very well known and we should have at least bid for them both.
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| I'm please with Rankin's signing but if we encounter visa issues should we move for Michael Witt now London are going into administration?
OK he's not a top level half back and but he does have several years SL experience and could do a job for a season or two.
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| Welcome to Hull, Jordan.
I'm happy with this signing. The kid has loads to prove and his NRL experience will be vital to our young halfbacks coming through.
We're building a very young side but thats no bad thing.
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| Quote ="GEvans75"Miller needs an experienced head around him not a fellow junior who will need time to settle yet be expected to move the team around.
I hope I'm wrong put Paea/Tuson aside the recruitment is either desperate or completed by people who have no contacts.
And all this Brisbane and St George wanted him but he chose us speal, yea right.
But good luck to the lad and welcome.'"
Well said and echoes my sentiments exactly. We know horne will miss a chunk of the season through injury and heremaia isn't rally up to it in the halfs s we'll be relying on 2 kids from the other side of the world who haven't even played a full season between them. I hope it comes good but can't see it. Add in he other high risk signings and it could be a long season
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