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| Don't think anyone on here is going too overboard based on one derby win. Yes, Friday was brilliant (always is to beat the old enemy) but we've had too many false dawns over the last eighteen months for anyone to believe that all our problems are magically sorted and it's next stop Old Trafford.
Even the "positive" brigade on this forum will admit that there are some fundamental flaws in the set-up which will not be remedied by a quick fix.
At the start of the season I said that I would enjoy the victories as they came around and I would shrug off the defeats likewise. My doubts about the clubs role in the bigger picture of SL (Genuine Grand Final contenders, a side to be feared and respected) remain, but like the majority on here I'm rather enjoying this weekend and will continue to do so for as long as it lasts .
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| Quote ="Kosh""Man of Kent" wrote
Agree 100% all the efforts (maybe apart from one) needed a look and after the chances missed I envisaged a Dobson/cok'ed devastating quick couple as you have to take your chances. Thankfully though we came good! Have to admit I didn't see yeamos try cos I was content big willie had driven it into the corner leaving then to start off from a handover right on their try line so sat down then the crowd erupted!
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| As much as i enjoyed the derby win, and it was a great win, i still dont think we've turned a corner, lets get real, we beat a very poor Rovers team, a team that was in turmoil leading up to the match, when we win the teams that are up there, the likes of Wire, Leeds,Wigan etc, then ill start to think maybe we are on the up!
As it is now, Agar has a stay of execution on the back of a good derby win, I fully expect normal service tomorrow and the following week!! The joys of being an FC fan!!!
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| Quote ="Man of Kent"That's why I feel guilty. I guess I should be happy and by and large I'm usually one for seeing the positive but I guess the dross from 2008-2011 has finally ground me down. I was cheering like a wildman in the first half but then the inability to convert opportunities and incompetence of the ref infuriated me - how many times can one man go to the video ref for efforts that have fallen half a yard short? GET ON WITH THE GAME FFS!!!
The sight of Rover fans cheering on that racist thug scoring wound me up and I left at that point. Couldn't do with seeing us throw the game away.
Maybe I shouldn't take it so seriously, I get that, but I guess since I moved up here I've truly tuned into the anti-Rovers hatred. Blimey, I never even used to get this wound up with football derbies!'"
die hard supporter then -- not heard of innocent until proven guilty i suppose - your obviously whiter than white - never sent a dodgy email or text to anyone i suppose
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| Quote ="R&R"die hard supporter then -- not heard of innocent until proven guilty i suppose - your obviously whiter than white - never sent a dodgy email or text to anyone i suppose'"
as much as it pains me to say, and he is a thug, thats for sure, a racist is a bit far, hes made a comment in the heat of the moment, but opposition fans are going to milk it for all its worth!!
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| Quote ="westjba"as much as it pains me to say, and he is a thug, thats for sure, a racist is a bit far, hes made a comment in the heat of the moment, but opposition fans are going to milk it for all its worth!!
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cant deny what he did previously - he should have paid for that -- but this is OTT
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| Quote ="R&R"cant deny what he did previously - he should have paid for that -- but this is OTT'"
I agree mate, id have probably said the same!!! but if the boot was on the other foot, what do you think Rovers fans would be doing?? they'd be lapping it up for all its worth, and you know it!!
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| Quote ="R&R"cant deny what he did previously - he should have paid for that -- but this is OTT'"
Should be biting a pillow on D Wing for it
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| Quote ="R&R"cant deny what he did previously - he should have paid for that -- but this is OTT'"
There's a cumulative element to this, isn't there? Wasn't he in trouble whilst in the army? Then the infamous head-kicking incident, now this. Add in the number of high shots he's put in over the years, trips to Red Hall of a Tuesday evening, and incidents like the one fingered salute to us in Cardiff and you can see why people question his integrity. I have to say I do find it surprising that, after all the general nastiness he's displayed on and off the pitch on Rovers' watch, that the majority on the unofficial forum respond with applauding emoticons the view that he's misunderstood and hope he'll be in red and White for many years to come. The particularly ironic overlay is the hysterical bile reserved for Yeaman for a bit of badge-kissing when you are sponsoring - quite literally - a criminal who is again under police investigation.
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| Quote ="westjba"I agree mate, id have probably said the same!!! but if the boot was on the other foot, what do you think Rovers fans would be doing?? they'd be lapping it up for all its worth, and you know it!!'"
yer i reckon the majority would be the same im sure -- but there are some decent fans amongst us both you know - but some of the comments are like i say OTT - facebook page that states ben should be jailed for instance some of the comments are not called for -- and when you know some that have commented and what they have done themselves texts etc - well shall we say pot calling kettle
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| Quote ="R&R"cant deny what he did previously - he should have paid for that -- but this is OTT'"
Did you actually see his comments? This is way beyond some "dodgy email or text", it's racial hatred.
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| I can't see him lasting much longer to be honest, as you say there's a cumulative element to it all and with the RFLs attempts to clean things up it will make his position at rovers more and more untenable. I think it is a shame
If I'm honest, not for him personally (who I cannot stand) but because he is a genuinely passionate player who gives all and is an asset on the pitch, but cannot match his on field attributes with a decent off field persona. I'm not saying all players are angels (far from it, it sort of makes them the personalities they are to compete how they do) but there are limits and even if the most recent allegations are not proven he has demonstrated he pushes the boundaries to say the least.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Did you actually see his comments? This is way beyond some "dodgy email or text", it's racial hatred.'"
What did he actually say ?
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| Quote ="Young Faithfull"
What did he actually say ?'"
"..A BIG-MONEY rugby league star was being investigated last night after racist comments appeared on his and a mate’s Facebook pages.
Super League ace Ben Cockayne, 27, allegedly posted “p*** c***” on the site earlier this week.
It is thought the Hull KR fullback wrote on a pal’s profile page: “u owe me a quid an the p*** c*** that has got my wallet in his car owes me about 100”. It is believed Cockayne was referring to a wallet which he had lost in a taxi.
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But 53 minutes later Cockayne, who was given a 12-month suspended sentence in 2009 for an assault, wrote on Facebook: “Found it thank f***”.
Last night Cockayne’s Facebook profile was removed within hours of the Mirror contacting his club and the Rugby Football League. A Hull KR spokesman said: “The club will be carrying out a full internal investigation into comments allegedly made on a website by Ben Cockayne. Nobody will be commenting further until that has concluded.”
The Rugby Football League, which has a Kick Racism Into Touch campaign, said: “We will be speaking to Hull KR about a potential social media matter.”
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| Think we covered the answer to the question sufficiently between us
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| =#FF0000And that's enough discussion about Cockayne thanks. Back on topic please.
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| Quote ="Young Faithfull"What did he actually say ?'"
If he was dyslexic it may have been "caki punt" but it would seem he's not dyslexic.
Allegedly
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| Quote ="Phil O'Stein"If he was dyslexic it may have been "caki punt" but it would seem he's not dyslexic.
Allegedly'"
You forgot the
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| Forgot what the subject was...oh yeah stop being a sour puss were not getting carried away with the win, it's just nice to have the bragging rights and a happy good Friday!
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| I was happy with the win and I will be a lot happier when we beat the WIRES
on Monday ..Then back that up beating Saints a week on Monday ..Funny how
ex-player who reported on the game thought it was a great game (Sky+ Super League Show )
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| I personally enjoyed the good Friday game, match day is about more then just the game to me. Thought the atmos with the flags and volume from both sets of fans was fantastic and the game was the best we have seen for a while. The banter around us with away support was all in good jest and hands were shook at the end. I'm not getting carried away with the result and hope for the best against Wire and the rest of the season. It won't though stop me enjoying taking the pish out of KR fans at work on Tuesday and getting a bit of payback for the last loss.
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| Quote ="Riff"Not to be a half full fan But some on here need to get a grip. We beat an average KR team with the team of individuals we had so we should and for the fun it gives lose against wire and home to saints and we are back in the bottom 2/3. The problem we have has not gone away but has been given yet another reprive as they did after the cas and bradford games. Unless we put back to back wins and get a run going the season will still be poor we should be in the upper part of the SL not in the position we are, so I ask all those who are getting very excited to stay calm and remember the previous poor games we have put together. I hope the same as every other that we get going but ....reality'"
Who is getting carried away? We know the problem has not gone away but when you win a game you are usually happy for a while.
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| Quote ="westjba"As much as i enjoyed the derby win, and it was a great win,[u i still dont think we've turned a corner,[/u lets get real, we beat a very poor Rovers team, a team that was in turmoil leading up to the match,[u when we win the teams that are up there, the likes of Wire,[/u Leeds,Wigan etc, then ill start to think maybe we are on the up!
As it is now, Agar has a stay of execution on the back of a good derby win, I fully expect normal service tomorrow and the following week!! The joys of being an FC fan!!!'"
Iv never been so happy to be wrong!!!
Lets hope we have turned that corner, great win FC!!
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