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| Quote ="Phil O'Stein"I'd be very suprised if Lauaki is anywhere close to Willie Manu for tackle busts. That said, Manu plays a lot more minutes. I am with you on this, though, I do believe Lauaki could go well at Wigan if they have him as a wide running second rower running wide lines against opposition centres, rather than shunting him up the middle.'"
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| Best of luck to the players that are leaving and a special mention to Dowesy and Washy for their effort's and service over the last few years.
They can both leave knowing that they have always given 100% whenever they have pulled on a black n white shirt.
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| Quote ="TKOAH"Just shows the moaning culture on this board, all season people have moaned about mediocrity and average players, we officially release 4 of the most average players we have (although I do think Lauaki will go well at Wigan because they'll use him properly) and people are still complaining. Dowes and Washy would struggle to make the grade at any club that finished higher than us and Phelps always knew he was here for just a year, especially after we signed McKinnon. AP has got the club going forward in ways others haven't seen before so now people on this board are just finding stupid things to moan about.'"
Don't think there's been that much complaining. All the decisions are correct, though, if we are to move forward.
I genuinely wish the departing players well, especially Dowes who won the Challenge Cup with us.
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| Still a lot of deadwood to get rid of but it's going to be more difficult with contracted players
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"
I genuinely wish the departing players well, especially Dowes who won the Challenge Cup with us.'"
Oh the days of the awesome foursome. As for Lauaki he just doesn't cut it for me, didn't think he was that great last night either, he may take a few to stop him but he is also very slow to get up and ptb. Think we should have got more out of him coach wise but also from him himself as never really seems to run it in 100% all the time. As has been said he is pretty much average and I am sure we can use his spot much better.
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"I never saw him stop last night when ran hard at the defenders and attracted the defenders in and made some good yards. I think you are missing my point here Hame has broken more tackles than all our forwards including Moa (about 10 more than Moa), who is good a breaking tackles but clearly not as good as Hame. Agar should have used this sheer brute strength and played him out wide, he would have rolled many a centre. He has gone backwards because we have failed to utilise his true potential, he also has very good hands which he has displayed on several occasions.'"
I was watching out for this and he definately boottled it at least once. Me and my brother were shouting at him.
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| Tweet by HDM... Finally, we report tmrw that new #HullFC coach Peter Gentle wants another overseas signing for 2012. But which quota player will make way?
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| Quote ="rollalong"Tweet by HDM... Finally, we report tmrw that new #HullFC coach Peter Gentle wants another overseas signing for 2012. But which quota player will make way?
web • 19/09/2011 17:49'"
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Don't think there's been that much complaining. All the decisions are correct, though, if we are to move forward.
I genuinely wish the departing players well, especially Dowes who won the Challenge Cup with us.'"
Seconded.
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"Obst ?'"
Doesnt he come off quota due to residency like manu??
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"Doesnt he come off quota due to residency like manu??'"
It has been mentioned on here but there has been no clarification from the club.
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"It has been mentioned on here but there has been no clarification from the club.'"
Depends on how far the process is i suppose????
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"Doesnt he come off quota due to residency like manu??'"
There is two different types of 'quota' non fed trained and quota. Originally Manu counted on the non fed trained list but not the quota, but because he was here prior to 2008 he was taken off the non fed list. Obst counted on both list but same as Manu he was taken off the non fed list because he was here prior to 2008 but he still remained on the quota list. If Obst was to become a British citizen then he would come off the quota list.
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| Good luck to all the players who are moving on, especially Washy and Dowes, who I believe always gave 100%.
The best thing about all this for me is, AP realises we need a stronger squad, not just strong starting 17.
We all know we can't have squad of 25 world beaters, but we do require players who can come in and do a better job then just filling a gap. You only have to look at our bench yesterday, compared to a not great Leeds team, it didn't fill you with any hope of any impact from it (tho fair play to Sharp, who I think did well).
It seems that we (hopefully) may be about to do something about it.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Criminal record'"
That would be "The Birdie song".
On topic I wish all that do go all the best.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"Doesnt he come off quota due to residency like manu??'"
Manu is off the quota because he is Tongan, not because of residency.
They're both of the non-fed list for being in SL before the ruling came in in 2008.
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| Confirmed out - Long, Fitzgibbon, Washbrook, Phelps, Dowes, Lauaki
Potentially out - Gleeson, Obst, Burnett, Kent
That's 10 players there. Two of them not used this season, so just to be replaced by academy graduates so no big loss to the first team. But there's eight others and only five in (six if we get Lynch). Definitely need two more signings! One definitely being a centre. I'd be tempted to go with a proven winger as well. Could do with another forward as well. If Moa, O'Meley, O'Carroll and Lynch are our 4 props, and Manu, Tickle and Westerman are our back row, then we've only got Radford as a backup to both, and Whiting as another backup back row. Unless we're finally gonna try out a youngster...?
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"Obst ?'"
Or one of McKinnon or Seymour not comming.
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| Quote ="Raised Elbow"Or one of McKinnon or Seymour not comming.'"
Maybe.....the plot thickens
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Confirmed out - Long, Fitzgibbon, Washbrook, Phelps, Dowes, Lauaki
Potentially out - Gleeson, Obst, Burnett, Kent
That's 10 players there. Two of them not used this season, so just to be replaced by academy graduates so no big loss to the first team. But there's eight others and only five in (six if we get Lynch). Definitely need two more signings! One definitely being a centre. I'd be tempted to go with a proven winger as well. Could do with another forward as well. If Moa, O'Meley, O'Carroll and Lynch are our 4 props, and Manu, Tickle and Westerman are our back row, then we've only got Radford as a backup to both, and Whiting as another backup back row. Unless we're finally gonna try out a youngster...?'"
There will only be long, fitz and probably lauaki in those who were on a decent whack. With 3 x decent overseas players and lynch (hopefully) coming in, I can't see there being much cap space left unless we move some more out
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"There will only be long, fitz and probably lauaki in those who were on a decent whack. With 3 x decent overseas players and lynch (hopefully) coming in, I can't see there being much cap space left unless we move some more out'"
Gleeson was on a decent wedge I believe, and who knows maybe AP has poached Wires accountant!
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"Gleeson was on a decent wedge I believe, and who knows maybe AP has poached Wires accountant!'"
Forgot about gleeson. Still can't be that much left
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| Depends if we were spending the full cap
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| Shame about Briscoe, a bit gutting really.
Williams obviously didn't look good enough and I think Burnett leaving is the best thing, potential has not materialised.
Sorry to see Gleeson go as he showed in his first few games how he could have improved us but it is undoubtedly the right decision, I don't see him playing again now tbh.
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