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| Quote ="wolfie"read my earlier post.
dont talk rubbish, dont you think agar has tried,like i said who is available worth signing on a 2 or more year deal,name some players whos available who you would be happy with at hull.'"
It really does seem like I'm the one agreeing with what Agar actually says and your not. Youre going on about signing whoever is available, and I'm the one who is saying we shouldn't sign anyone unless they are the right player which is also what Agars message is also
I'm not complaining we haven't signed anyone as such, I'm complaing that we signed someone who, imo, isn't good enough to take us back to where we belong. I'm not necessarily saying we should have signed a stack of others (although I've already mentioned Carney, Ryles, Bell and Talau so I don't know why you now asking for more names). I've already said I would have had Washy and Horne in the halves until the right man came along also.
Just becaue I will back Thorman, hope he plays great and hope he proves me very wrong, it doesn't mean I can't be negative about his signing and think we shouldn't have signed him looking at how things are at the moment
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| i think the problem last year was that we didnt have any halfbacks linking together hopefully this season we can keep horne fit and have thorman and horne linking ifso its got to be a lot better then last season
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| Quote ="stighead"i think the problem last year was that we didnt have any halfbacks linking together hopefully this season we can keep horne fit and have thorman and horne linking ifso its got to be a lot better then last season'"
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| Quote ="stighead"i think the problem last year was that we didnt have any halfbacks linking together hopefully this season we can keep horne fit and have thorman and horne linking ifso its got to be a lot better then last season'"
But despite Crocker signing, our pack is going to be dominated by more teams than it isn't, so personally don't think it will be much better. The only reason why Thorman is been so hotly debated is because its an issue which splits the fans down the middle, whereas I think most would agree our props look weak
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| Quote ="stighead"i think the problem last year was that we didnt have any halfbacks linking together hopefully this season we can keep horne fit and have thorman and horne linking ifso its got to be a lot better then last season'"
Yer not wrong! ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Quote ="The Key"I think that for 2004, McRae had assembled a very, very good squad. In fact, iirc, we were 2nd for alot of it until injuries hit towards the end. Wasnt the team something like:
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Scruton
The only problem was keeping the likes of Barnett and Smith fit. Remember McNicholas been very good that season (considering how the latter was awful in 2005), and Lupton was cracking when coming into the side for Smith. We recorded some right hammerings that season as well'"
How I dream we had a backline like that again. Barnett was awesome. Think the problems began to occur when McRae went back home 6 games before the end of the regular season due to (I think) the death of his father. We were 2nd at that point, with 6 "easy" fixtures (as it was then), which people were saying would give us 2nd undeservedly (even though we were already there!). As it happened, we lost 3 of the 6 easy games and ended up 3rd, then lost to Wakefield! Talk about a change in fortunes!
And the hammerings, ah yes. Won me a lot of money that year! 82-6 Salford, 70-4 Widnes and 34-6 Saints IIRC ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"How I dream we had a backline like that again. Barnett was awesome. Think the problems began to occur when McRae went back home 6 games before the end of the regular season due to (I think) the death of his father. We were 2nd at that point, with 6 "easy" fixtures (as it was then), which people were saying would give us 2nd undeservedly (even though we were already there!). As it happened, we lost 3 of the 6 easy games and ended up 3rd, then lost to Wakefield! Talk about a change in fortunes!
And the hammerings, ah yes. Won me a lot of money that year! 82-6 Salford, 70-4 Widnes and 34-6 Saints IIRC
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Didn't McRae go back when we had Leeds away and Kear took over? Could have been Washbrooks first game as well but can't remember
Edit: it wasnt his first game. I'm sure someone made their debut that night though. Probs wrong though
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| Quote ="stighead"why apart from dykes who have we lost that had great talent'"
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| Quote ="The Key"Didn't McRae go back when we had Leeds away and Kear took over? Could have been Washbrooks first game as well but can't remember'"
The game when Scruton scored for us!
Dont remember Washy playing but didnt Briscoe have a try disallowed after one of our players got hit in the face by the ball?
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| Quote ="The Key"It really does seem like I'm the one agreeing with what Agar actually says and your not. Youre going on about signing whoever is available, and I'm the one who is saying we shouldn't sign anyone unless they are the right player which is also what Agars message is also
I'm not complaining we haven't signed anyone as such, I'm complaing that we signed someone who, imo, isn't good enough to take us back to where we belong. I'm not necessarily saying we should have signed a stack of others (although I've already mentioned Carney, Ryles, Bell and Talau so I don't know why you now asking for more names). I've already said I would have had Washy and Horne in the halves until the right man came along also.
Just becaue I will back Thorman, hope he plays great and hope he proves me very wrong, it doesn't mean I can't be negative about his signing and think we shouldn't have signed him looking at how things are at the moment'"
my point is if we hadnt signed thorman who would we sign,we needed a halfback and nobody else was available.
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| if i remember rightly wasnt he injured for biggest part of season
but still a good player forgot about him ![Embarassed icon_surprised.gifops:](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_redface.gif)
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| Quote ="wolfie"my point is if we hadnt signed thorman who would we sign,we needed a halfback and nobody else was available.'" I would much rather have James Webster than Thorman in all honesty.
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| Quote ="wolfie"my point is if we hadnt signed thorman who would we sign,we needed a halfback and nobody else was available.'"
I've already said, we should have not signed anyone and waited until someone good enough was available, just like it seems we are doing now with props and a centre
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"I would much rather have James Webster than Thorman in all honesty.'"
do you know why webster is at widnes and not at hull?
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| is webster classed as english now
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| Quote ="stighead"is thorman classed as english now'"
no hes american
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| Quote ="wolfie"do you know why webster is at widnes and not at hull?'"
Suspect shoulder?
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| Quote ="knocker norton"The game when Scruton scored for us!
Dont remember Washy playing but didnt Briscoe have a try disallowed after one of our players got hit in the face by the ball?'"
Yeah I go it wrong about Washy, guess you didnt read my edit
I remember that Briscoe try, it was defineately a try as he didnt play at the ball, was really angry after that game. Almost as fuming as when Connolly cheated to stop Prekkie in the cup but a penalty try wasn't given. How it wasn;t given I dont know!
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| Quote ="wolfie"do you know why webster is at widnes and not at hull?'"
Alliteration? ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="The Key"I've already said, we should have not signed anyone and waited until someone good enough was available, just like it seems we are doing now with props and a centre'"
my guess is agar doesnt want to use washy in the halfs, so he signed thorman who was the only halfback available ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="The Key"Yeah I go it wrong about Washy, guess you didnt read my edit
I remember that Briscoe try, it was defineately a try as he didnt play at the ball, was really angry after that game. Almost as fuming as when Connolly cheated to stop Prekkie in the cup but a penalty try wasn't given. How it wasn;t given I dont know!'"
For all that team on paper was class we did seem to fall in the bigger games didnt we? Usually at Headingley. ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="wolfie"no hes american'"
i meant to put webster as you can see i changed it
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Suspect shoulder?'"
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| Quote ="wolfie"my guess is agar doesnt want to use washy in the halfs,so he signed thorman who was the only halfback available
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Well I don't think Agar will want Washy in the starting line up at all looking at the squad numbers so theres something else I disagree with ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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