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| We had 1 eye on the cup semi
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| Defence is our biggest problem
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| Said it so many times. We need to exploit the referees who cannot keep up with the pace of SL. Saints did it excellently last night (as well as everything else). That level of rugby deserves better officiating. Hopefully we find some of our cup magic again and we can meet them at Wembley for a real classic.
Ultimately once again we were our own worst enemy. We really are a very good but very dumb squad.
On the bright side, I’ve had a shiite week and unloading it all on Kendall et al has helped no end
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| Quote ="RIGSBY"No ROBY again...lol...best of luck for the rest of the season!'"
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| Quote ="pmarrow"We wont have the best back line when we keep using Shaul at full back.'"
Quote ="Dave K."Our main problem is out pack and FB, I like Shaul, but he hasn't improved his link play enough, I'd look to play Connor there next season, if Shaul isn't happy he either needs to improve or look to leave, sounds harsh, but I honestly think it would improve our attack.
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Agree 100%
Good support player is Shaul, but his ability to pass and create an overlap is sadly lacking.
Our attack looks more cohesive, with either Connor,or Wynne at FB..
With Westerman leaving, our attack next season will be unbalanced, with only 2 pivots..if Shaul is FB..
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| Quote ="weaver93"Agree 100%
Good support player is Shaul, but his ability to pass and create an overlap is sadly lacking.
Our attack looks more cohesive, with either Connor,or Wynne at FB..
With Westerman leaving, our attack next season will be unbalanced, with only 2 pivots..if Shaul is FB..'"
I'm not sure it makes much difference who full back is when the ball they receive is slow and telegraphed to the opposition like it invariably is
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I'm not sure it makes much difference who full back is when the ball they receive is slow and telegraphed to the opposition like it invariably is'"
so.. Basically we need a full-time attack coach?
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| The 2nd try, by Fages looks like a knock-on on the challenge in the air. The 4th try, by Grace was a knock-on and offside, and the 3rd try, by Coote is debatable whether Sneyd was tackled without the ball and was Naiqama onside?
These amateur, park game rules need to be sorted out. We can't play some games using a video referee and some games not. It's a different set of rules, for different teams, for different games.
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| Anybody know why we had a try chalked off when it was 18-0? Think it was Ratu who got it down. Pivotal time of the game & a big call from a referee who never usually has the bottle to make a decision.
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| Quote ="K-Diddy"Anybody know why we had a try chalked off when it was 18-0? Think it was Ratu who got it down. Pivotal time of the game & a big call from a referee who never usually has the bottle to make a decision.'" Not a clue, I didnt see anything. I'd assume it was for either obstruction or pulling back or pushing a player.
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| We did come out on the wrong end of the 50/50 calls. That's taking nothing away from Saints who were great in both attack and defence. I don't even blame the ref, it's the different rule structure for different games that's the problem.
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| Quote ="giddyupoldfella"Not a clue, I didnt see anything. I'd assume it was for either obstruction or pulling back or pushing a player.'"
Was it when he said someone had run round the back of his own player?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Was it when he said someone had run round the back of his own player?'" That's the problem without the video ref, we don't get to see it again. I'm not doubting that we foul played, because the officials must have seen something to disallow it, but with the technology available to us today, it's just so amateurish that it's not used for non TV games.
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| broncos hammered again,if we cant beat them comfortably next week,i think we should consider playing the rest of our home games at west park.
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| On the officiating I thought it was poor to be honest. The amount of times we were attacking in the St’s 10 to be then penalised for what seemed anything Kendal could think off. He ignored St’s time & again offside, markers not square, Percival in front of the Lomax/fages a number of times when the kicked and blatant knock on in the build up to a try. Thought he harshly penalised for minor stuff yet St’s free to exploit same stuff. Thought the officials as a group were poor. If Kendal is the future the game is in trouble and about time Ganson was given the boot as the standard is not getting better.
That said it’s not the reason we lost as were just so and purveyors of our own downfall in the main but the officials were poor.
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| Quote ="fosdyke99"broncos hammered again,if we cant beat them comfortably next week,i think we should consider playing the rest of our home games at west park.'"
Our home form has been mediocre for years. Even in 2016 we struggled to be consistent at the KCOM. Our last good return at home was in 2012 when we we went W10 D2 L1. Since then we've won 50 drawn 1 and lost 42.
I've no idea what the answer is but it needs fixing.
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| Quote ="Chris71"On the officiating I thought it was poor to be honest. The amount of times we were attacking in the St’s 10 to be then penalised for what seemed anything Kendal could think off. He ignored St’s time & again offside, markers not square, Percival in front of the Lomax/fages a number of times when the kicked and blatant knock on in the build up to a try. Thought he harshly penalised for minor stuff yet St’s free to exploit same stuff. Thought the officials as a group were poor. If Kendal is the future the game is in trouble and about time Ganson was given the boot as the standard is not getting better.
That said it’s not the reason we lost as were just so poop and purveyors of our own downfall in the main but the officials were poor.'"
No doubt saints are the best team in the league, but every time I’ve seen them this season , they seem to be playing to a different set of rules to the opposition and the ref helps them . Saints are good enough without a leg up from the ref
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| Quote ="weaver93"so.. Basically we need a full-time attack coach?'"
Thats the simple option rather than replacing Radford with an Aussie coach that would bring more ideas and freshen the place up.
The coaching side of the club is stagnant
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| Quote ="K-Diddy"Anybody know why we had a try chalked off when it was 18-0? Think it was Ratu who got it down. Pivotal time of the game & a big call from a referee who never usually has the bottle to make a decision.'"
obstruction called by the touch judge
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| The ref performed a lot better than our team last night
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| Quote ="MorningGlory23"No doubt saints are the best team in the league, but every time I’ve seen them this season , they seem to be playing to a different set of rules to the opposition and the ref helps them . Saints are good enough without a leg up from the ref'"
You always get the one.
We don't get a leg up at all. You don't only score after 70 minutes because the ref was bad pal
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| Quote ="St Helens Fan"You always get the one.
We don't get a leg up at all. You don't only score after 70 minutes because the ref was bad pal'"
Ignore him. His last account got banned now he's running at least two, easy to spot because of his unusual grammar.
Well done on the win, Saints were probably not at their best but still streets ahaed of the rest of the league. I guess the test is van you maintain this standard until the Grand Final.
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| Quote ="St Helens Fan"You always get the one.
We don't get a leg up at all. You don't only score after 70 minutes because the ref was bad pal'"
Just saying what I’ve seen , In my opinion you get a lot of calls going your way , Salford game , Huddersfield game , thought you was lucky in both, I said your the best team, just that I think for whatever reason , the refs clearly favour you
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Ignore him. His last account got banned now he's running at least two, easy to spot because of his unusual grammar.
Well done on the win, Saints were probably not at their best but still streets ahaed of the rest of the league. I guess the test is van you maintain this standard until the Grand Final.'"
Just the one account , why would I need more. And why ignore me , because of my grammar? My poor grammar as done me ok, don’t worry about that . Your a sad man having to comment on that saints fans post . Really don’t get why you felt the need. But ok, you want to be like that with me fine
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| Quote ="bonaire"Thats the simple option rather than replacing Radford with an Aussie coach that would bring more ideas and freshen the place up.
The coaching side of the club is stagnant'"
I echo your sentiments, IF we have ambitions of emulating Saints, we have to adopt their philosophy..
Doesnt matter which players we sign, its the ideology of a NRL Head Coach, which is the difference ..
We could hypothetically sign the entire Saints squad, in 3 months time, they would be churning out the same type of performance,as witnessed on Friday..IMO..
Unfortunately, the owner doesnt share this same vision...
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