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| If you led with your knees in a tackle anywhere else on the pitch it would be a straight red, don't see why it should be any different just because it's over the try line. Raynor was dismissed (and rightly so) for his desperate attempt to prevent a try, the knees to the kidney is just as bad as a high shot, if not worse.
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| Nothing new really, personally I'd say the worst player for doing this is Billy Slater, he's been doing it for years but never seems to get pulled for it.
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| Quote ="shauney"It's been going on for ages. Didn't Motu get flattened in the 2005 CC final in the act of scoring by a Leeds player going in with a raised knee?'"
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| Message to Webb. Lee Radford is playing on Friday......be very careful with your knees, arms and other body items. Be warned and if you dont trust me ask Bailey.
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| Quote ="Bubbashrimp"Mathers
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"marcus bai??'"
Definitley Mathers - Bai was the one who passed the ball very nicely to Whiting in the in goal
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| Dirty cheap shots should result in a sending off! Simple!!
No need for it in the game! To be fair the cheap shot merchants are normally the cowards!!
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"Definitley Mathers - Bai was the one who passed the ball very nicely to Whiting in the in goal'"
yea i remember that as well, it was definitely mathers
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| Webb is your text book niggly, cheap shot merchant who displays many school bully "qualities", particularly being able to dish out the cheap shots but bleating when he's on the receiving end. As a previous poster already pointed out, there are a few at it in the league at the moment. I'd like to see it clamped down.
Cameron Smith was the player guilty in SOO 3 for kneeing Jarrod Hayne in the act of scoring a try.
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| Quote ="Monko"Message to Webb. Lee Radford is playing on Friday......be very careful with your knees, arms and other body items. Be warned and if you dont trust me ask Bailey.
'" If Radford throws a punch at anybody in either of the Leeds game he should be sacked for lacking a brain.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"If Radford throws a punch at anybody in either of the Leeds game he should be sacked for lacking a brain.'"
Radford won't throw the first punch because he's not a dirty niggly player, never has been and never will be. However, throw the first punch at him or lash out in the tackle (Bailey) and he may retaliate. He wont take any crap, thats all I'm getting at.
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"is it just me or is brent webb purposly trying to injure players who are in the action of scoring a try...
webb, when he clearly has no chance of stopping the diving player, seems to "go in" with knees, boots etc etc to try and dislodge the ball form the ball carriers hands,
i,personally think this is dangerous and really needs clamping down on....
its totally out of order in my opinion, but he is not alone, ive also witnessed wellens,and sam tomkins doing this aswell this season...
i think its only a matter of time before someone really gets hurt by a loose knee,boot or fist etc....
as for tomkins, what happend to him at bradford afew weeks back(raynor incident) should be a message to him to stop this vain attempt at knocking the ball out..
thoughts?????????'"
You forgot to mention the most blatant of this type of tackle. Raynor knocking tomkins out cold for bradford
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| Quote ="Monko"Radford won't throw the first punch because he's not a dirty niggly player, never has been and never will be. However, throw the first punch at him or lash out in the tackle (Bailey) and he may retaliate. He wont take any crap, thats all I'm getting at.'"
No he prefers a fair fight when the oPositon player isn't looking and has his hands on the floor trying to play the ball.
That said I would say that to his face!! Saw his boxing match against fielden
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| Quote ="Ferdy"No he prefers a fair fight when the oPositon player isn't looking and has his hands on the floor trying to play the ball.
That said I would say that to his face!! Saw his boxing match against fielden'"
Was speaking to radders at u20s game few months bak.. And having a bit of banter, deffo sum more blood to be had re Bailey! He can't stand the guy expect a few digs in the tackle!!
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| Quote ="Ferdy"You forgot to mention the most blatant of this type of tackle. Raynor knocking tomkins out cold for bradford'"
Looks like you forgot to read the last couple of lines of the post you quoted.
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"Looks like you forgot to read the last couple of lines of the post you quoted.
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| Quote ="rollalong"Was speaking to radders at u20s game few months bak.. And having a bit of banter, deffo sum more blood to be had re Bailey! He can't stand the guy expect a few digs in the tackle!!'"
Should be good then.
My comment was fairly tounge in cheek, and I do appreciate it wasn't just radford throwing the fists, there were some cheap shot elbows being thrown by Bailey as well.
Saw radford on supermen show came across as a decent bloke
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| Quote ="Ferdy"Should be good then.
My comment was fairly tounge in cheek, and I do appreciate it wasn't just radford throwing the fists, there were some cheap shot elbows being thrown by Bailey as well.
Saw radford on supermen show came across as a decent bloke'"
Cheap shots and Bailey In the same sentence ?!? Uve got to be ing me!!
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| Quote ="rollalong"Cheap shots and Bailey In the same sentence ?!? Uve got to be ing me!!
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No it's true, I saw it with my own eyes!
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| Quote ="Monko"Radford won't throw the first punch because he's not a dirty niggly player, never has been and never will be. However, throw the first punch at him or lash out in the tackle (Bailey) and he may retaliate. He wont take any crap, thats all I'm getting at.'"
I think if it helps the team, i.e, stops him getting sent off (I know it was only once but ended up costing us the game) he'll have to learn to. If Bailey is playing I wouldn't be surprised if he's told to try and wind Radford up in the hope of getting him sent off again.
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| Quote ="rollalong"Dirty cheap shots should result in a sending off! Simple!!
No need for it in the game! To be fair the cheap shot merchants are normally the cowards!!'"
Quote ="rollalong"Was speaking to radders at u20s game few months bak.. And having a bit of banter, deffo sum more blood to be had re Bailey! He can't stand the guy expect a few digs in the tackle!!'"
What is it then ???
If Radford rises to Bailey AGAIN he should be dropped from the Cup game incase he costs us a win in another crucial game.
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| Let's not over-react eh.
The kids been sent off once in a 14 year professional career.
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| Quote ="withernsea zebra"Let's not over-react eh.
The kids been sent off once in a 14 year professional career.'" I'll accept I'm been dramatic regarding getting sent off again however even if he rises to it and concedes a penalty shows a lack of brain on his behalf
That said I cant believe the double standards I'm reading on here as it started off complaining about cheap shots however if they are done by Radford against Bailey its ok or in some peoples mind should be actively encouraged
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| Quote ="Manface5000"I think if it helps the team, i.e, stops him getting sent off (I know it was only once but ended up costing us the game) he'll have to learn to. If Bailey is playing I wouldn't be surprised if he's told to try and wind Radford up in the hope of getting him sent off again.'"
Bailey won't wind Radford up, I know which one is the more temperamental and Radford isn't the one. Radders, as has already been mentioned has only been sent off once in 14 years. Not a bad record in the pro rugby league game. I don't condone any player on player violence but when a dirty player starts dishing out elbows in the tackle someone will see red and react. It's easy for us to say don't react and throw a punch but completely the opposite for a player in the heat of the moment. And besides, Bailey is a windy get and won't get anywhere near Radford for a bit of biff.
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| even the worlds best do it sometimes - cam smith in the origin game went in late and conceded an 8 point try
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