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| Quote ="Dr Hfuhruhurr"So do we ignore it and let Agar make mistake after mistake after mistake?'"
What the hell can we do about it, I ask you. Personally I was not happy about his appointment in the first place. Coaches come and go but the one constant are the fans. Hull fans are the most passionate and faithful in the world and it should always stay that way, regardless of the numpties in charge. I will be going next week to support my team.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"What does Agar have in that A4 folder of his? Always on his lap either open or closed. Intrigued.'"
His CV, hopefully.
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| Quote ="The 4th Tongan"I will be going next week to support my team.'"
So will I, but somethings got to give. Blind faith is running very thin IMO, about time the people that can alter things start doing it.
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| Quote ="Dr Hfuhruhurr"So will I, but somethings got to give. Blind faith is running very thin IMO, about time the people that can alter things start doing it.'"
Its not going to happen though is it. The problem is they have been too quick to do this in the past. Johnny Kear, anyone. Persoanlly I have nothing against Agar. Seems like a nice enough bloke who gets on with the players very well. It seems to me though that he is learning his trade in the hot seat. Slowly. He could become a great coach maybe 5, 10 years form now. IMO we need a coach who has already paid his dues at the highest level - someone like Brian Smith, for example. We could keep Agar on for player recruitment, U20 duties.
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| Quote ="The 4th Tongan"Quote ="Dr Hfuhruhurr"So will I, but somethings got to give. Blind faith is running very thin IMO, about time the people that can alter things start doing it.'"
Its not going to happen though is it. The problem is they have been too quick to do this in the past. Johnny Kear, anyone. Persoanlly I have nothing against Agar. Seems like a nice enough bloke who gets on with the players very well. It seems to me though that he is learning his trade in the hot seat. Slowly. He could become a great coach maybe 5, 10 years form now. IMO we need a coach who has already paid his dues at the highest level - someone like Brian Smith, for example. We could keep Agar on for player recruitment, U20 duties.'"
Brian Smith wasa relative unknown when he came to Hull
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| Don't know what it would take for Rule to sack our inept coach. Player recruitment, the reason JR always trots out is no reason to give someone a 2 year extension. As RA is the cheap option JR knows his proud boast of being one of the most profitable clubs in Super League is safe....in the short term at least. The reason he survived the trauma's of last year was it wasn't 'his team', well it sure is now and that makes our ineptitude all the harder to swallow. Settle in for the next two years.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"What does Agar have in that A4 folder of his? Always on his lap either open or closed. Intrigued.'"
5 drives and a kick
5 drives and a kick
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"No, they dropped the ball, fell off tackles and didn't wrap up players which is far more important to the game.
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Should have brought in players who dont drop the ball and can tackle and wrap up players then....so it is Agars Fault
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| Quote ="B0NES"5 drives and a kick
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If he is feeling really brave 4 drives and a kick
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| Quote ="Cotillion"Brian Smith wasa relative unknown when he came to Hull'"
I mean Smith as he is now, the old salt. Just an example though....hang on......
......Wayne Bennetts just moving in next door.....we are saved!!!!
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| Quote ="B0NES"5 drives and a kick
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Surely too complicated.
5 drives and kick everytime would suffice.
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| Quote ="B0NES"5 drives and a kick
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tbh thats an improvement on last years 4 drives and a kick to touch or drop the ball, so he's learning.
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"tbh thats an improvement on last years 4 drives and a kick to touch or drop the ball, so he's learning.'"
I forgot the "ball back inside move"
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| Isn't Agar employed as team manager? That's what we have usually had in the SL era.
There is a world of difference between managers and coaches. A manger manages players, on and off field. He employs coaches to train players to play to his game plan, he usually doesn't coach them himself. How often would you find Alex Fergusson, stood on the touchline at MUFC's training ground, calling moves for set pieces?
I have no doubt Rich Agar is a capable coach, not yet in the John Kear calibre (because Kear is also a coach and not a manager) but he is certainly not a team manager. A manager will take on board what his coaches and scouts tell him and will then use that knowledge to get the best out of his own players, while also pointing to the weaknesses of their opposition.
The manager will develop the game plan and that plan will be specific to each game. It will involve telling players, who may have played out of their skins in the previous game, that they will be on the bench, or possibly not even featuring in the next game. They are called managers because they manage to do that without some player spitting his dummy.
That is not Agar. He is not and I honestly believe, ever will be a team manager. He would make a good "John Kear": someone who has the freedom to analyse the opposition, influence the way a team plays and help develop players. They both should never, ever be given total control. Neither of them are up to the task
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Isn't Agar employed as team manager? That's what we have usually had in the SL era.
There is a world of difference between managers and coaches. A manger manages players, on and off field. He employs coaches to train players to play to his game plan, he usually doesn't coach them himself. How often would you find Alex Fergusson, stood on the touchline at MUFC's training ground, calling moves for set pieces?
I have no doubt Rich Agar is a capable coach, not yet in the John Kear calibre (because Kear is also a coach and not a manager) but he is certainly not a team manager. A manager will take on board what his coaches and scouts tell him and will then use that knowledge to get the best out of his own players, while also pointing to the weaknesses of their opposition.
The manager will develop the game plan and that plan will be specific to each game. It will involve telling players, who may have played out of their skins in the previous game, that they will be on the bench, or possibly not even featuring in the next game. They are called managers because they manage to do that without some player spitting his dummy.
That is not Agar. He is not and I honestly believe, ever will be a team manager. He would make a good "John Kear": someone who has the freedom to analyse the opposition, influence the way a team plays and help develop players. They both should never, ever be given total control. Neither of them are up to the task'"
Agar is Hull FC's Head Coach.
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"You make fair points and I find it hard to disagree with you. I do find Hull's form unsettling however can see improvements in our team this year, I aren't defending Agar to the point where he does no wrong, I'm just providing balance to a message board that seems dead set that if Agar was gone we'd suddenly turn into a team that can beat the reigning champions and win the league and cup despite finishing 2nd to last the year before.'"
No one thinks that, however plenty know it would be the first positive step towards it
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Agar is Hull FC's Head Coach.'"
So who manages them then?
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| Quote ="cod'ead"So who manages them then?'"
James Rule?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"James Rule?'"
Didn't he have a rugger match to play in this afty?
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| James Rule please do the honorable thing and replace Agar with a competent coach .....Ian Millward !!!!
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Didn't he have a rugger match to play in this afty?'"
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Didn't he have a rugger match to play in this afty?'"
Well to be honest he spent most of the time lookng at his phone and talking to his mate whilst at the derby. He was sat in the next row.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Well to be honest he spent most of the time lookng at his phone and talking to his mate whilst at the derby. He was sat in the next row.'"
was ringing his solicitor to get agars new contract ready for the morning..
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| DoR anyone?
The Heatheringtons have previous.
Remember Daryl Powell?
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