The disturbing thing, is that Wigan have annihiliated us twice this year!!

Chopping and changing players in the off season, only papers over the cracks.

Until we adopt Wigan's mentality and style, we will never catch them.

FFS, this is their first decent season in how long?

What else they got in common....both got primarily the same squads but different coaches and better ideas.

The board don't train the players. The problem is down to the coaching staff, and that doesn't mean just Agar. The whole lot need clearing out and we need to start with a fresh set of coaches.
Take a look at football when a manager comes in they tend to bring their own backroom staff, ours have been pretty much the same for a long time and things have been going downhill for a few years as well.

Agars main job is picking the team, setting the gameplan, going over tactics and choosing the correct interchanges during games. His job should not be teaching players how to tackle, pass etc that is down to defensive/attacking coaches. We have tried different coaches and the end result seems to be the same, poor rugby overall, yes we have the odd moments when we do something good but we generally back that up with something awful. I suppose you could take one of Agars analogies and say the team are rocks and diamonds, however we tend to be rocks more often than diamonds.

This does not mean that i think Agar is not to blame as he is, as head coach he should be saying XXXX is not good enough to bring the players on etc.

Always got close in the play-offs though.

So Maguire can't be judged until after then, surely?

It's all about attitude, structures and overcoming obstacles with innovation. Nothing of which Agar can ever be praised as showing.

If we were play the game like Saints , Wire or even Wigan . We'd be pulling in 16-18'000 imo. Success breeds success . There's your money back on a top coach for a start.

Well the two seasons before this they've been within a hairs breadth of the Grand Final so I'd class that as 'decent'. It still wasn't good enough for them though and they made changes to try and ensure they did better in future, at the same time we have people telling us we should back a coach who took us from being a GF team not long before to the depths of of the table and then managed a slight improvement on it once he'd signed a few big names... it goes to show how the mentality at their club is far superior to ours.

For such a business orientated club, Hetheringtonesque, this simple fact has always baffled me as well.

Can only think it's a case of Gary not wanting us to get toooo good.

Oh great, you're back. Think it's time to log off and go to bed.

Yet Kath Hetherington isn't the major shareholder, or is it the case so long as we have lemmings for supporters and make them money they couldn't care less.

what's wrong, can't answer his post?

Sleep well, if you manage to think of anything that contradicts what I said please do let us all know xx

Not a fan of Juniors then? Off to watch the replay in 20 minutes in the hope that we really were not as bad as i thought we were

Well, he'll be turning into sleeping beauty before he comes up with anything, god knows where we will be in a 100 years time though.

No doubt competing in the Intergalactic Mega League with Agar still in charge via the use of cryogenics and robotic implants... mercifully none of us will be around to see it

Is that an intergalctic w^nk ?

Don't think we were a 46 nil dicking bad. think the players tried, think we need a new coach,

If were weren't a 46 nil dicking bad, they wouldn't have scored 46 points and us nil would they?

Mrs B will still be around though, as Cassandra, with her quotes still intact

Don't get me wrong mate, am riled with it all. Don;t think we deserved the scoreline, but am under no illusions. And I think if you see what I have said in the past you would know where I come from. We are a poor side, and poorly coached.

The Board made a basic error when extending Richard Agar's contract which was to ignore the fact that in the Super League era no club, other than Braftful under Brian Noble some years ago, have been successful without an Australian or Kiwi coach.

While some us may remember Arthur Bunting, Dougie Laughton, Alex Murphy and Eric Ashton, it is true that as Alan Hanson once almost commented 'You win nowt with a British coach'.

Although John Kear might win you the Challenge Cup

Nope , I don't see it changing for while either.

Almost

Interestingly though that's one of the biggest myths in football and Hansen was actually right, of the youthful Man U team that were beaten by Villa on the opening day of that season only three of them went on to play a major part in winning the league that year.