Apart from a few drama queens I'd say the criticism is justified . It's good that Pearson is staying and his investment in certain parts of the club is welcomed . That said , When performances have gone from week to week poor performances to now year in year out poor performances . Don't you think questions should be asked as to why we're still in the brown stuff with all the investment showing no improvement at all .

Where do you live? Surely paying £200 for a pass is cheaper than 13 return flights to Stansted and onward travel, don't feel too sorry. Not sure a 14 point loss is a demolition BTW. 0-28 was double the margin, but that wasn't one either really.

Clearly you didn't understand the word 'demolition' in the context of the posters chosen words..he said mentally as well as points wise. They put the cue in the rack early (& could have scored more if they'd bent their backs) whilst we flailed away pathetically, mentally the players were utterly destroyed and that played a huge part in the result.
We [iwere[/i demolished, just look at the reaction by almost every single supporter, it's a worse fall out than the Wembley loss and the loss at Hudds in the play-offs which if you remember was partly down to our illustrious leader...Karma is a biatch

oh hang on, our results are still dog turd, I'd rather we were just winning but that aint gonna happen with this faker/loser.

I live in Calabria and have done for some years now, however i come over to see family and stick my head into my company offices from time to time but always plan it to coincide with matches i want to see..

But can never guarantee anything due to business commitments hence why i do not buy a season ticket.

you see your just not reading correctly AGAIN, its not a pass cost that bothers me its a small amount but whether it would be used to its fullest is another thing because we travel Europe extensively and cannot guarantee anything .. but hey thanks for organizing my finances and your advice, however thus far my wife and I seem to have done OK thanks..
I am sat here in the Swan with family now enjoying your attempted demolition of a new member whom simply hates seeing his club in this state, but if it makes you feel better then that's your prerogative too as it is mine to post my feelings unless the rules on here changed since I joined!

Thank you , glad someone saw my point, the points were not the issue it was the mental collapse...
for the club and all supporters apart from Barista it was a demolition on all levels , the points scored against being the least of our issues

Crikey. We were well beaten without a shadow of a doubt but "demolished on all levels"? Wowzers. Good that you speak for all 15000 though. With that sort of insight no wonder you've done so well.

Totally agree. Whilst I can see that some people go a bit extreme and some are a bit repetitive, I really don't get this criticism of posters for being negative. If that's how they feel, that's how they feel. Just because you don't like it doesn't make them wrong either in their opinions or choosing to expressing them.

In which case those not on suicide watch are of course equally entitled to post without being accused of apologism, ignorance or delusion.

I think Hull will beat St Helens.

They are busted, you are desperate it's the perfect storm.

It'll be a much needed boost for you lot and maybe paint a clearer picture, you are not nearly as bad as you think you are.

But should I be right please, please spare us the world domination thing that you normally indulge in whenever you win so much as a scrum.

To a point yes , But that argument is wearing thinner by every game .

Absolutely. Incidentally, there's no need for the dig about suicide watch IMO, it's just as childish & petty as the apologism, ignorance & delusion cracks you're reaching for the moral high ground about.

Great. I'm sure you'll be calling out the "apologist" bashing point by knockersbumpmkII in equally swift fashion.

I didn't see it. I don't tend to fully read his posts much as they're long, repetitive, and usually dull. (See what I do there? There's a poster I don't particularly enjoy the posts of, so I don't read his posts. Good innit?)

But yes, if he said that there's no need for it. Feel better?

We are a very good side at the basics. Working hard getting on the front foot and getting into try scoring positions. But that's where it goes drastically wrong. With 2 creative halfbacks we'd up near the top challenging. The players are frightened to take risks, and the longer it goes on the worse it will get

He does have a good point though

I read this and the subsequent replies by Mrs b and initially wasn't going to reply but then decided I'd never read anything so cr@p as this for sometime .
If we weren't so poor if the fans weren't so disillusioned there would be none of this.
If you're still happy to accept this turd we are being served then so be it but blind faith is something I and many on here now no longer wish to display, it doesn't mean we will stop supporting the club and just because you don't agree with it it doesn't give you the right to criticise those that don't share your view point.
I have not used the word apologist to describe anyone on here but by the sheer virtue of your post I think you are the very definition and part of the reason this club will stagnate.
After reading this forum lately I find you and Mrs b to be in an ever dwindling band.
If that is the case why don't the 2 of you form your very own breakaway forum where it's permanently bright sunny and positive then you wouldn't have to concern yourself with those of us who are simply not happy at the state of our club and don't then have to be insulted by your ilk just because we voice our displeasure.

So you are criticising their viewpoint about them criticising other people's viewpoints?

If you think anyone is totally positive at the moment then you clearly aren't reading this board properly.

One of the real problems is with most fans IMO, is that we suffered four years of Agar. By the time Pearson moved in and gave the majority of us a long lasting smile, we had had enough of the same dross. After two years with a glimpse of success we are now subject to another eighteen months of Agarness. And the real problem is AP seems to have stuck his heels in and be happy with it.

I very much doubt he's happy about the situation. Unfortunately he seems to be convinced that Radford isn't the problem and is instead the best guy to fix things. A pretty incomprehensible viewpoint on the face of it.

This is it precisely. It's like a man who has been falsely imprisoned for 4 years finally had his case reviewed and was released. After 2 years of freedom and starting to build his life again he gets banged up again on another false charge.

I can honestly say I have never felt as frustrated and despairing about Hull, not least because our current situation is so needless - we had the map to recovery firmly in our grasp only to see pirates with their own motives nick and rebury it.

Spot on post. I can't recall anyone posting that they're happy with the current situation, but I can recall lots of vitriolic posts aimed at people who try to find some positives within the club.

Some, no many, posts from the angry brigade are extremely personal and do the posters no favours whatsoever. I think people should realise that we all want what is best for the club but have to accept that the solution is not in our hands and that no amount of bitching is going to change things. Lets just calm down.

Incomprehensible is the word. I think Lang Park's insight into Pearson's possible mindset yesterday may shed some light on this, depressing though this is.

But at what point will he see the truth and react? When we look like being relegated? When we are relegated? When we can no longer sustain our contract at the KC and have to leave (as Pearson himself alluded would be the case should relegation occur at a fans' forum, iirc)?

Can he afford to 'undig' his heels? Or does he still have enough in the coffers to allow him to take action even if he has the will? And to whom will he feel he can go to for advice after his trust in McRae so embittered him, if anyone? Does he have any independent advisors at all or is Radford the sole mutterer in his ear?

I just feel the whole situation looks very bleak and has the aura of being caught up in a landslip that has already started so therefore can't stop.

Did I say I was happy with the situation the club finds itself in? Have I ever said I'm happy with the situation?

Your post typifies the very issues I'm highlighting. Well done for repeating it again.

And you say my post is insulting.

I think Pearson is probably not going to put much more of his own money in (if he has any left) and is waiting for the Sky money to come through in September spending any more.

Presumably you mean parachute payment?