What Mrs B said pretty much sums it up for me.

I think 5-8 is pretty realistic and will be the aim for a lot of clubs this year, what I think I was getting at was to get those positions it is about a 60% win rate, probably worse to start with, then getting better as the year goes on, would Agar keep the wolves at bay with that kind of win ratio or would the axe be called for if you went say 3 from 6.

I expect we'll go out of the cup as soon as we meet a decent SL team and in the league we'll finish in 9th, 10th or 11th. Agar will be sacked after around 12 games after having a fairly decent start. We'll then either get in a coach who's not much better or be without a coach for a few games while we find the right man for the job. Roll on 2011.

On paper our squad should be around 5th/6th next year battling it out with Wigan and Rovers, and trying to break into the top 4. (Leeds, Saints, Hudds and Wire being the top 4). In the cup, anything less than a semi final wont do.

I wouldn't class top 6 as 'success', but it'd be a huge improvement on the cack we've witnessed these past two years, and with a further clear out and more signings should see us challenging in 2011. We're a team in transition

Top 8 finish minimum for me.

Top 8 :

Bradford
Catalans
Huddersfield
Hull
Leeds
St Helens
Warrington
Wigan

Finish in the playoffs is a must, and semis of the cup. anything else is a bonus for me.

Not too sure about that one they seem to have been found out in the last few weeks!!

Absolutley

Yes I am a Bronze














when did that happen

Not as much as Rovers have



There defence was still pretty good and looking at their in's/out's the squad looks to have improved. Anything could happen I suppose. At the beginning of this season who expected Bradford, us and Wire not to make the playoffs.

Any reason why you would think Bradford will finish top 8 considering all the players they are losing and their apparrant lack of funds?

The double will do me

Obviously, I expect us to be more aggressive in the forwards next season, but a lot depends on the make up of the team in regards to the 'key' positions:

Loose forward for me has to Washbrook, mainly for his creativity.

Scrum half; a massive weight rests on Longy's shoulders, sure he'll have the protection, we just need him to stay injury free.

Off half; we need Horney to hit the highs of latter years.

Hooker; Leave Berro at hooker and let him rule the roost.

Yeah, I reckon we'll beat Celtic home and away.

I applaud your optimism but we looked like losing at home to Celtic for 70 minutes. Chuck Noble into the mix and we've got our work cut out.

Better than being a brass.




On topic, all I ask is 100% effort.

That will do for me too!! and my lad!!

Play offs for me is the no brainer achievement for me, shouldn't be looking for anything less at this moment.
As mentioned earlier in the thread the halves may be a problem if we pick up any injuries and that is my major concern for next year, think we have the pace out wide to trouble teams if we can dominate teams in the forwards and imo our pack looks stronger then this years and with that i hope we don't see the fair play award in our cabinet next year as i think thats why we have being struggling as we don't have any nasty buggers who will stand up to be counted and from what i've seen from lauaki this season and o'meley in his nrl career they won't be taking a backward step.

Realistically I would settle for the Challenge cup,finish top of the league, win the grand final,the Floodlit nines,Clive Sullivan trophy and the Hardaker cup.
Anything else is a bonus


By the way does anyone know how to remove Dencorub,it sure is giving my head a torrid time

anything less than 6th and i will be disappionted-if we can stay relatively injury free the team we have for next year should be well capable of that-a couple more good signings and we should be right up there,i just worry about the coach(thats not a dig cos i really really hope the guy proves most of wrong!) but im pretty optimistic!

I expect us to put in 100% effort every game, and have something resembling a clue. And leadership on the pitch. I also want to see us play a more entertaining brand of football and score more tries.

As for league position - think I'll wait until all clubs have completed their recruitment before attempting any kind of guess in that regard.

After 4 seasons of meeting or exceeding expectations, even if we had a rotten year, I'm sure Morgan would be safe. The year after would be when the pressure would come, if things went badly again.

I think the wonderful thing about SL now is that any can go into a new season with optimism. Leeds are very good. Saints are too, although they are coming back to the pack a little. Wigan I think could re-emerge as a real force in the next few years. After that its pretty even - look what Hudds did this year after a poor 2008.

I notice that Rovers don't make a couple of predicted 8s. And we might not - but don't let our performances skew your assessment of your own team - either way.

I believe it will be a ridiculously close season. Leeds top then saints, huddersfield, hkr, wigan, cas, wakey, wire, catalans and us taking up the next positions in any order. I know its not complete but harlequins, bradfords, salfords and celtic's recruitment doesn't look good. I'd like to see enthusiasm from the younger players, leadership from the older ones and a game plan from the coach. Our backline looks exciting plenty of pace and our pack looks like it can dominate a few sides so the signs are all there. If Tansey, Horne, Long, Berrigan and Washbrook play most games I cant see why we couldn't get top 6.

With a decent injury run top 6 but have concerns at our strength in the halves. Should be good watching our pack.

What many FC supporters have to consider many more then any other year, well since 2000. Is the team will be a high percentage of new players, they will take time to gel even under a good coach. There will be more then one or two bad matches before they find a working relationship togther, indeed they might not find it until late in the season.

You can get the best players in the world in every position and it does not mean they will be a world dominating force for some time. Warrington thought they had the right formula, they needed a coach who knew what to do with them and then look at what they are and what they could become next year.

There is the opportunity to be challenging next year, no doubt on that but we all thought we should have been in the mix this year with the squad we should have had. Perhaps we should wait and see what happens next season, but if Agar is found wanting and have yet another bad year. Then heads further up the food chain have to roll this time, its no good blaming the coach some of us know where the problem lies and this would be the time they jumped ship.

5 -8 is quite a hope, not a target

Would settle for anything above 8th TBH given the last 2 years

But our team on paper and size of the club we should be aiming for Top 4