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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Watch again, they pretty much jogged. Not that that's entirely their fault, they were out on their feet. It was the amount of work we've been expecting of them coming back to bite us, and there should have been a couple of our more mobile players helping them out as well.'"
What gets me about the set leading to there drop goal is that we should have known it was coming. Firstly they started to go wide the first couple of tackles. When they did that, i would have liked the middle group of defenders to shoot out of the line, to stop them getting central and keeping them out wide, thus reducing the chance of an "easy" attempt - kind of an opposite to the "umbrella" defence
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Totally agree with your points but in fairness to Ewan Dowes see above
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It's the numbers I blame. Commentator's nightmare. 6/8?
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| Quote ="The Key"The reason why I didn't think it was at a crucial time in the game was because Castleford seemed to keep coming back at us all game, so if that had been a try then I think Cas would have still thought back. Whereas the other incidents may have been at a stage of the game where we could have killed them off. If Hornes attempt at a DG had gone over, that would have been a 7 point lead. I would say at that stage of the game, Cas would have changed the way they played to try and get the game back which we would have taken advantage of.
And I realise after Thormans attempts the week before at Bradford he didn't loom that good but I'm under the impression he is sually good at DG's?'"
I see what your saying, and it's one of those things we'll never know. I just thought that after they kept coming back, Briscoe going in could/would have finally been the moment we broke their resolve and they'd start to think it wasn't to be. On the contrary, the fact that we bombed it gave them a further lift IMO.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"It's the numbers I blame. Commentator's nightmare. 6/8?
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You are Eddie Hemmings and i claim my £5
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Exactly. If there's one glaring individual error in a narrow defeat, the loss can arguably be attributed to the one at fault. But in a game like Friday, when IMO almost all simply didn't turn up, too much goes on to single a few out.'"
Yup. Our completion rate must have been pathetically low, we had to overwork in defence because of it which lead to fatigue, factoring that with Agar not using his subs particularly well etc all leads to a poor performance. The players were knackered, although to be fair they were making errors from minute 1 so fatigue cant be attributed to our performance too much in the 1st half for me. (and we were winning at HT)
Just think overall it was a game to learn from, we could have still won and we played bad. Whats that say about our resilience for example.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Totally agree with your points but in fairness to Ewan Dowes see above
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I was to hear last night that Cullen said he doesn't think R. Horne is good defensively? He's the best defensive HB in the league imo.
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| Quote ="Irregs #16"What gets me about the set leading to there drop goal is that we should have known it was coming.'"
That's what I thought was the worst part too. It had to be coming, so we should have made sure our players with the most energy/pace left were in the right place to chase it down.
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| Quote ="Irregs #16"You are Eddie Hemmings and i claim my £5
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I was waiting for that.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I disagree. I think at the stage it was it would have just given us enough impetus and hurt Castelford enough for us to go on and win.
Debatable after the previous week.'"
I believe that had we gone 12 points ahead we would have won the game. Castleford would have had to score 3 times to WIN the game and that makes a difference IMO. Maybe justified the decision to run rather then take the 2 as well!
We just couldnt kill the game and Cas were always kept within striking difference and played that way.
Also Horne has kicked plenty of drop goals before to justify putting himself in that position...rubbish effort though.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"It's the numbers I blame. Commentator's nightmare. 6/8?
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"IOr are they not entitled to opinions because theirs happen to disagree?'"
Not at all, everyone is entitled to their opinion, well, apart from fc baldy!
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"I was to hear last night that Cullen said he doesn't think R. Horne is good defensively?
He's the best defensive HB in the league imo.'"
Whilst I think he's made more errors this year in defence than normal I put it down to him having been out for a long time and needing to get back up to speed. Generally he's been outstanding in defence for a HB during his career.
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| Quote ="Standee"Not at all, everyone is entitled to their opinion, well, apart from fc baldy!
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Whilst I think he's made more errors this year in defence than normal I put it down to him having been out for a long time and needing to get back up to speed. Generally he's been outstanding in defence for a HB during his career.'"
Theres no doubting he hasn't been at his best and like you say I think this is because he was out for so long. But even still the way he is defending now which is not like his usual best. I stil think he is better than most in the league.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Whilst I think he's made more errors this year in defence than normal I put it down to him having been out for a long time and needing to get back up to speed. Generally he's been outstanding in defence for a HB during his career.'"
I'd take Cullen's words with a pinch of salt TBH. I don't think a coach who's side consistently conceded over 700 points a season in SL is in any position to comment on the defensive aspect of the game.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I don't think Cullen's in any position to comment on the game.'"
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| Quote ="Standee"Not at all, everyone is entitled to their opinion, well, apart from fc baldy!
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| Quote ="Standee"for accuracy
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Although to be fair, I do think he's a better coach than he's painted to be, particularly in terms of attacking rugby.'"
We can't really judge him, it's not as if anyone has enjoyed success at Wire for some time, he just spouts a load of guff!
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| Quote ="knocker norton"I believe that had we gone 12 points ahead we would have won the game. Castleford would have had to score 3 times to WIN the game and that makes a difference IMO. Maybe justified the decision to run rather then take the 2 as well!
We just couldnt kill the game and Cas were always kept within striking difference and played that way.
Also Horne has kicked plenty of drop goals before to justify putting himself in that position...rubbish effort though.
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Maybe. We do still seem to have plenty of mental lapses though where we struggle to kill teams off or concede silly points. We look sharper in attack than all last season put together but need to stay switched on for the full 80.
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| Horne has consistently missed lots of tackles. He probably makes more than any other 1/2 back in SL so he's bound to miss a % of them
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| Who is making this desiscion, flipping G.Brown
This is totally insane
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Who is making this desiscion, flipping G.Brown
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totally agree,the club need to put at least an update out on both players
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| Quote ="fc-eaststander"totally agree,the club need to put at least an update out on both players'"
My own view is that they know about "C" but are waiting to soften the news with the announcement that "L" is on his way.
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| Quote ="Standee"My own view is that they know about "C" but are waiting to soften the news with the announcement that "L" is on his way.'"
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