No it isn't. You could have pulled 17 people from the crowd and paid them nothing and you would have got a more committed performance than what we saw tonight.

Warrington have a more talented squad than us, but tonight had nothing whatsoever to do with talent.

as dreadful as you were tonight money talks. and the wire backers or chairmen certainly throw theirs around just hope it dosent end up like the premier league

Don't be silly. Gulf in quality -> flurry of early scores - > heads go down - > blah blah blah. Saying we got owned had [unothing[/u to do with different squad quality is laughable. 3 of the top 7 Man of Steel points earners so far are from tonight's Warrington side. Maybe the fact they are really good was a factor on their win after all

We were simply diabolical tonight and haven’t in all honesty looked a decent side so far this season. Regardless of the opposition tonight what is alarming is the total lack of any sort of performance or pride from Hull FC tonight.
It’s not just the magnitude but the manner of the defeat that is concerning.
To be quite honest the way we played tonight we would have been beaten by anyone in SL and most likely a few teams in the championship.
Yes Warrington were very good and it was always going to be a tough ask but we were beaten before the game had started. Warrington didn’t even have to work hard tonight we gave them far to much time and space and helped them continually by giving up cheap ball by errors or penalties but what’s new. Our line speed is shocking and give up territory far too easily because of it.
Tonight had nothing to do with Warrington being far better we just didn’t or weren’t able to get up for the game and didn’t even put up a fight whatsoever.

So based on that logic, and the quality they have due to the money they spend compared to the rest of the SL, they will put 60 points on every team? Or, will other teams adopt tactics that negate their attacking rugby, I.e. move up in defence to give their players less space to work in? We hung back, all game. They had players running at static defenders and we wonder why they got round us, past us, through us so comfortably

It’s certainly been a couple of record breaking years!

Wire may have money, but we’re in a salary cap sport. We shouldn’t be having record defeats inflicted on us.
It’s not Man City versus Crawley Town.

I find it a bit galling blaming the injuries again. Wasn’t our failed recruitment/ retention policy based on not having these problems again?

I’d say I’m fed up of hearing it, but I’m past caring now.

Do you honestly believe this utter drivel?

I doubt it, but they will be up there in the top 2 if they can field the squad they had tonight I would think. We have a mediocre squad and half a dozen injuries. I don't disagree with your points on our tactical inadequacies but as said before asking, for example, a back up back rower to play starting centre against a Top 2 three quarter line is asking for trouble even if he tries really really hard.

I think it's utter drivel to suggest that Warrington's quality differential had nothing to do with our heavy defeat.

If we had played to somewhere near our ability and ended up losing then you could point to a gulf in quality. The fact is that from minute one we looked like the last place we wanted to be was on that field. Right from Warrington's very first set we looked lazy and lacking in aggression. They could have sent the reserves and it wouldn't have mattered, they would have still battered us. Our attitude was abysmal, and pointing to things like spending power is just making excuses and ignoring what the real issues were/are.

For me it’s not so much that it was a heavy defeat but the manner of the defeat that is of concern. Regardless of the difference in Warringtons squad we were not even on the field tonight and that is inexcusable.
We can say how good Warrington were and how much better than us they are but the simple fact is that tonight’s performance was unacceptable from a Hull perspective.

You said the gap in quality wasn't a factor in tonight's result. My opinion is that the quality of personnel in the club and available tonight isn't good enough to match Warrington's. It's not making excuses or ignoring anything. Those are brutal facts. What the team available brought to the table was not acceptable either, clearly.

Thought you where a BIG club... Just a thought...No your not!!! You over-rate yourselves and always have.
You are average. Sometimes have good days, sometimes have bad.
Will you go down? no you won,t. Will you win anything, probably not.
Do your supporters think you are a better than you are...yes you do.
Are you loyal when times are bad....Absolutely not!
Any kind of weather???? Not in a month of Sundays.
Only one or two teams win anything...this year it,s not you!
You are not as good as you think.
Would I like us both to be dominating the game...yes I would,(mainly us)but we are both way way off just now unfortunately.
It,s a pain in the arris supporting a team. is,nt it?
Suck it up and move on. We have had to do it too often.
Must admit I laughed when I saw your result though.
Peace to you my B and W contributors...It,s only a game....
Next Thursday might be your time to laugh...but it,s Leeds....I hope we KILLLLLLLLLL EM!

Ok look. On paper Warrington had the better team. All things being equal they would have been expected to win the game. But the respective quality of the two teams becomes irrelevant when the attitude is as poor as that. Maybe a lesser team would have only beaten us by 40? So what? The real issue is that we weren't interested. I can't imagine that effort would have beaten half of the teams in the championship. Ability doesn't matter if you aren't going to make any attempt to apply yourself.

Exactly how London have won some games , good attitude , intensity, and wanting to win . On paper they wouldn’t win a game all season

Hull really didn’t look right tonight. Wire were excellent and would have put almost any SL team to the sword, but Hull were strangely passive. I don’t know if it was low energy or moral, but it looked like most of them were just going through the motions.

It can happen every once in a while, but that was a striking example.

It happens way to often for us and been going in for a while , despite our cup wins , top 4 finishes

If Wires massive spending power was the difference tonight, what was the difference in the last home game against Wakey?

Enough of the excuses, we had a season full of them last year

When you were good, I’d put it down to struggling to maintain the high intensity you played with week in, week out. And those looked a bit more like a fatigued team trying their best. Tonight looked more careless or disengaged.

How they react for your fixture with Salford will be interesting.

Well done for your prediction- I went for a Hull win. Upside for me is that I love these meetings and Warrington have been my second favourite team since I first saw them at the Boulevard back in 47/48. We were outclassed that day too!

You could see from the off they wanted it over with, strange performance from hull all round. I thought after last years drubbing there would have been a lot of fight.

147 point for wire in last 2 games against hull must be some kind of record

We play them at their place in seven weeks. Massive improvement from us required to avoid another drubbing.

We need to focus on avoiding the drop and hoping for an easy cup draw for once!

At least it was an improvement on last years 80-10,scored more and conceeded less.

Brexit is just about as interesting as your posts. You should feel at home there.