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| Quote ="fun time frankie"See its posts like this that make you look stupid and deluded'"
Please point out the inaccuracies in his post.
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| Quote ="Bombed Out"
I was having a debate about Watts and Taylor.
Read the thread it's others that started the pi##ing.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Calling Hull professional when you still have Walker, Kelly and Cockayne!
Criticising our youth, when yours is the worst in SL.
We might have underachieved, but are still ahead of you on and off the pitch, as it has been for the last 30 years and I can't see that changing anytime soon.
You have been in SL 10 years now and have won a couple of playoff games and been humiliated in a cup final.
Within 10 years of us being in SL, we had won a challenge cup, finished 2nd in SL and got a grand final. I'll take stick from Warrington, Saints, Leeds and Wigan fans, who have all been more successful than us, but not from a club who hasn't won anything major in most fans lifetimes.
As for predictions we will finish 5th-8th and you 9th-12th, I'm sure you will comfy come back up again though.'"
One last time for the festive season....
Cockayne was sacked for his behviour. Remind me what Kelly and Walker have done? (Please be aware your moderators won't like unproven libellous answers).
Rovers youth the worst in the league...good enough to produce your 2 props your all drooling over.....and good enough to merge with.
Thanks for reminding me of the play off win.....it was priceless.
After that first ten years of superleague did you go down the other side of the ski slope fast or what....settled next to us superleague newcomers for a while haven't you.
Why limit it to wire saints Wigan and Leeds? Surely you can't exclude Catalan, Huddersfield and Cas who all regularly out perform you too.
I didn't come on here pi##ing about how good Rovers are. Read my predictions I think we'll finish below you barring a miracle run with injuries.
You all got nasty cause I suggested Watts and Taylor ain't all that over the long run.......hence they are with you and not a big club.
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm" Remind me what [uKelly[/u and Walker have done? (Please be aware your moderators won't like unproven libellous answers).'"
Do you really want to pull on that thread? Try reading up on the background to his sackings from Cronulla and Newcastle and his supplements ban.
Online libel, or defamation, can be troublesome. "Generally, defamation is a false and unprivileged statement of fact that is harmful to someone's reputation, and published "with fault," meaning as a result of negligence or malice." Maybe like saying Taylor was shipped out to Leigh in 2014. Naughty.
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"One last time for the festive season....
Cockayne was sacked for his behviour. Remind me what Kelly and Walker have done? (Please be aware your moderators won't like unproven libellous answers).
Rovers youth the worst in the league...good enough to produce your 2 props your all drooling over.....and good enough to merge with.
Thanks for reminding me of the play off win.....it was priceless.
After that first ten years of superleague did you go down the other side of the ski slope fast or what....settled next to us superleague newcomers for a while haven't you.
Why limit it to wire saints Wigan and Leeds? Surely you can't exclude Catalan, Huddersfield and Cas who all regularly out perform you too.
I didn't come on here pi##ing about how good Rovers are. Read my predictions I think we'll finish below you barring a miracle run with injuries.
You all got nasty cause I suggested Watts and Taylor ain't all that over the long run.......hence they are with you and not a big club.'"
Another error as Watts didn't come through your academy.
We are going around in circles anyway so I'll leave it there, I'm sure this thread and as you say I'm getting really nasty
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Do you really want to pull on that thread? Try reading up on the background to his sackings from Cronulla and Newcastle and his supplements ban.
Online libel, or defamation, can be troublesome. "Generally, defamation is a false and unprivileged statement of fact that is harmful to someone's reputation, and published "with fault," meaning as a result of negligence or malice." Maybe like saying Taylor was shipped out to Leigh in 2014. Naughty.
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Oh Mrs. B. As always quibbling over the minor technicalities but missing the bigger picture.
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"Oh Mrs. B. As always quibbling over the minor technicalities but missing the bigger picture.'"
Minor technicalities have a habit of coming back to bite you. We're still talking about the defamation thing, right? Or Albert Kelly's previous transgressions that you seemed so certain were non-existent?
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Please point out the inaccuracies in his post.'"
The glaring one is the 'couple' of higher league placings. It's four just in SL. five if you count 2010, which I wouldn't, admittedly. Going back the 30 years he mentioned would include '86, '87, '88 and '92. Hardly a record of glory in an unrecognised, trophyless two-team competition, but 'a couple' - pfft.
In fairness Dave K gives Rovers 'a couple' of play-off wins - if we're talking SL, that's over crediting. But with the other hand he tries to take away Watts as a rovers-trained player. Now, while his good seasons have tended not to come in pairs to this point in his career, and the club-trained rule has been binned off, he did meet all of requirements to qualify at Rovers. As would Abdull at Hull, or the lad Oakes if he sticks with us for long enough. Unless Academy means under-16s, which now I think on it perhaps it does. Lost an argument with myself there.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"The glaring one is the 'couple' of higher league placings. It's four just in SL. five if you count 2010, which I wouldn't, admittedly. Going back the 30 years he mentioned would include '86, '87, '88 and '92. Hardly a record of glory in an unrecognised, trophyless two-team competition, but 'a couple' - pfft.
In fairness Dave K gives Rovers 'a couple' of play-off wins - if we're talking SL, that's over crediting. But with the other hand he tries to take away Watts as a rovers-trained player. Now, while his good seasons have tended not to come in pairs to this point in his career, and the club-trained rule has been binned off, he did meet all of requirements to qualify at Rovers. As would Abdull at Hull, or the lad Oakes if he sticks with us for long enough. Unless Academy means under-16s, which now I think on it perhaps it does. Lost an argument with myself there.'"
Abdul signed for us at 16 and played for the 16s and 19s, how old was Watts when he signed for you and did he either play for your academy teams? He may be classes as club trained but if he can hardly been claimed as a youth product if he never played for your youth teams.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Abdul signed for us at 16 and played for the 16s and 19s, how old was Watts when he signed for you and did he either play for your academy teams? He may be classes as club trained but if he can hardly been claimed as a youth product if he never played for your youth teams.'"
Was Abdull still eligible for 16s when he joined Hull? He'll have turned 17 very early in that season, but I guess if you're 16 at the start of the year you qualify for the whole season?
Watts was 17 when he joined rovers, assuming his dob is correct on Wikipedia. He only played 3 games in 2008 (pretty good for a 17/18 year old forward) so I assume he played quite a few games for the 19s or 20s, whatever it was that year. 2009, he spent time (possibly the whole season) on loan with Gateshead, before becoming a regular in the 17 for most of 2010. The rule was 3 years with the club while eligible for the 20s iirc. Which was a bit strange when it went from 16s, 18s and 20s to 16s and 19s.
As I say, it looks like they've done away with that rule, so that's one thing fewer to argue about.
It will make life simpler recruiting from the joint academy at least. Now our youth system is exactly as good as yours.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover" Now our youth system is exactly as good as yours.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Please point out the inaccuracies in his post.'"
Well if you'd read it you wouldn't need me to explain it because it's plain to see even for you
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Well if you'd read it you wouldn't need me to explain it because it's plain to see even for you'"
I've read it but asked you to list the inaccuracies.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"I've read it but asked you to list the inaccuracies.'"
You can read??? Your posts suggest otherwise.
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"You can read??? Your posts suggest otherwise.'"
Whereas your posts prove you don't know how games Taylor played,Watts is a oaf and had 1 good season,when in fact he has been consistent for the time here and no trouble.The fact that you have got a hide on over 2 ex players of yours prove you haven't got the calibration of prop at your club or pack as we do.Take Watts and Taylor out and we can still go in with Ellis,Bowden,Green,Feka and Masi at props with Mini,Frank,Manu,Hadley,Whiting,Fash,Downs,Turget in the 2nd row with Abdull and some of the other 2nd rowers covering 13.That pack would still pi$$ all over your pack.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"I've read it but asked you to list the inaccuracies.'"
I'll give you a clue there at the beginning,middle and end of the post but don't let me stop you all shooting for the stars look forward to watching in the grand final
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"I'll give you a clue there at the beginning,middle and end of the post but don't let me stop you all shooting for the stars look forward to watching in the grand final'"
Has one Hull fan mentioned the Grand Final, must Hull fans expectations are pretty realistic.
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"I'll give you a clue there at the beginning,middle and end of the post but don't let me stop you all shooting for the stars look forward to watching in the grand final'"
Who said anything about the Grand Final? I've not made any predictions.
Still waiting for you to list all the inaccuracies. In your own time.
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| I haven't said any Hull fans have mentioned the grand final I've just looked at what fans have said about your squad and fully expect you to be in it
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"I haven't said any Hull fans have mentioned the grand final I've just looked at what fans have said about your squad and fully expect you to be in it
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The majority think we've got challenges in the halves, inadequate rotation at hooker and lack quality depth in the three quarters. What proportion of posters are predicting top four on here? Half? A quarter? 10%?
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"I haven't said any Hull fans have mentioned the grand final I've just looked at what fans have said about your squad and fully expect you to be in it
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This was Doom&Gloom Merchant's post
Quote Have a bit of sympathy for Burton's Forearm.
Think about it. He supports a club that barring a couple of higher league finishes and a disastrous Wembley appearance, have been consistently in the shadow of their arch enemy for the past 30+ years.
That arch enemy have been going through a rough patch & underperforming for a number of recent seasons, yet are still not quite as bad as his own club.
To add insult to injury, the only notable academy product his club have produced in ten years, has gone on to play for the enemy, his boyhood club, as well as another ex-youngster who's just had the season everyone knows he's capable of, but was let go by his club. Both are poised to go on and have a good next few years.
The only consolation is to go onto the rivals message board and vent some anger.'"
You still haven't said what the inaccuracies are "at the beginning,middle and end".
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"This was Doom&Gloom Merchant's post
You still haven't said what the inaccuracies are "at the beginning,middle and end".'"
As you've repeatedly asked and hopefully to help you settle into the new year...
'Rough patch'......or grossly underperformed for a decade. It's all how you look at it. But rough patch accurate for hull 's last decade naaa...
Out performed Rovers in the past thirty years....by how much exactly. The head to head record in superleague suggests not. When did hull last finish in the top 4? More recently than Rovers? If your desperate to justify your recent history comparing with a club that spent over a decade in the lower divisions and you had a decade start on in superleague then you really have not pulled up any trees have you?
Rovers haven't missed Taylor and Watts as we've done ok for props. Though hull do seem to rely on us for front rowers recently.
Our back row however is a different issue.
Jesus your desperate....and I've been dragged into a hull daily mail comments thread....are you slammer in disguise?
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"'Rough patch'......or grossly underperformed for a decade. It's all how you look at it. But rough patch accurate for hull 's last decade naaa...'"
Within the last decade - give or take - we've won the Challenge Cup and appeared in a GF. Plus two more losing CC Final appearances. Hardly 'gross' underperformance when compared against most SL clubs, including Rovers.
Quote ="Burtons Forearm"Rovers haven't missed Taylor and Watts as we've done ok for props.'"
Many of your own fans disagree, at least for the last couple of seasons.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"The majority think we've got challenges in the halves, inadequate rotation at hooker and lack quality depth in the three quarters. What proportion of posters are predicting top four on here? Half? A quarter? 10%?'"
Well over half are predicting top 4
Plenty more speculating 4th 5th or 6th.
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| Quote ="Burtons Forearm"
Jesus your desperate....and I've been dragged into a hull daily mail comments thread....are you slammer in disguise?'"
I'm neither Jesus nor desperate and it's "you're" not "your". I don't read the HDM comments sections.
You never confirmed how many games Scott Taylor played in his second season at Wigan (the one when he was apparently injured and shipped out to Leigh).
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