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| Quote ="the cal train"Tomkins doesn't seem too bad a bloke off the pitch, and he knows he's better than anyone else on it, it'd be odd if he wasn't a bit arrogant'"
He knows that, does he? Sure we've had this argument before on here, but how can anyone say he's better than, say, Gareth Ellis? They play completely different positions and different things are expected of them. There are plenty of players who do their jobs just as well as Tomkins does his. That aside, his knowledge that he's a decent player ought not to make him try to referee the game all the time, and to throw himself around like Ashley Young would do after someone has lightly brushed his arm in the penalty box.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"I have always thought Lovegrove was pretty decent for some reason tbh but not sure why?
Shenton would be a poor signing considering we're losing Turner who will more than likely be replacing Shenton. Stay well clear, let Rovers sign him.'"
I've always rated Lovegrove, but I'm not sure where he would fit into the squad.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"He knows that, does he? Sure we've had this argument before on here, but how can anyone say he's better than, say, Gareth Ellis? They play completely different positions and different things are expected of them. There are plenty of players who do their jobs just as well as Tomkins does his. That aside, his knowledge that he's a decent player ought not to make him try to referee the game all the time, and to throw himself around like Ashley Young would do after someone has lightly brushed his arm in the penalty box.'"
He knows he can score past pretty much anyone (in superleague) with his step and pace and he knows how highly rated he is, I agree there are others doing their job just as well but he's the one the journos like to kiss
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| Quote ="the cal train"He knows he can score past pretty much anyone (in superleague) with his step and pace'"
Well, sometimes he can. Not all the time though, or it'd be 100-0 to Wigan every game. So he's no different to lots of players, in that respect. He's excellent in attack, but he's not the invincible superhero some make him out to be.
Quote ="the cal train"and he knows how highly rated he is, I agree there are others doing their job just as well but he's the one the journos like to kiss'"
He is, but that's more to do with the fact the his job is to do the fancy, eye-catching stuff. It's easy, I suppose to wax lyrical about the bloke who has just scored a nifty try, but less fashionable to highlight the work of the other blokes that have created the conditions for him to be able to score the try. Which is why I took exception to you saying he was 'better than anyone else', I suppose.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"
He is, but that's more to do with the fact the his job is to do the fancy, eye-catching stuff. It's easy, I suppose to wax lyrical about the bloke who has just scored a nifty try, but less fashionable to highlight the work of the other blokes that have created the conditions for him to be able to score the try. Which is why I took exception to you saying he was 'better than anyone else', I suppose.'"
His job isn't to do the 'fancy eye catching stuff'...........He's excellent with ball in hand, under a high ball, very creative, good in defence,works great with Leuluai and Finch as a 3rd ball handler.... all the attributes a good full back has... 1 of the better players in the Super league, if not the best....Could even call him a game changer
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| Excellent with ball in hand, creative and working great as a third ball handler are more or less the same thing, just said in slightly different ways. He's good in defence without being outstanding, but what sets him apart is his broken field running, where he is the best in the division. When I say it's the fancy stuff that catches the eye, that's what I mean: if his broken field running wasn't so exceptional, he'd just be one of many very good SL players.
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| Put in a nutshell Rock God Yep
Not good under highballs in traffic though.
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| Tomkins is a better player at FB than any other player is in their positions.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Excellent with ball in hand, creative and working great as a third ball handler are more or less the same thing, just said in slightly different ways. He's good in defence without being outstanding, but what sets him apart is his broken field running, where he is the best in the division. When I say it's the fancy stuff that catches the eye, that's what I mean: if his broken field running wasn't so exceptional, he'd just be one of many very good SL players.'"
I agree, I think his age also plays a role in his reputation as he was so good from a young age, and has only got better.
He must be one of the best broken field runners in the world at the moment
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Tomkins is a better player at FB than any other player is in their positions.'"
In SL, I'd agree, but he's not the best FB in the game, so that statement only goes so far.
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| Quote ="Phil O'Stein"In SL, I'd agree, but he's not the best FB in the game, so that statement only goes so far.'"
I didn't think we were considering the NRL. He gets close to the top 10 though, IMO.
Slater, Smith, Cronk, Thurston, Gallen, Thaiday, Inglis and Marshall are definitely better in their positions, maybe a couple more.
He's still very young and will only get better.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Tomkins is a better player at FB than any other player is in their positions.'"
James Roby, Kevin Sinfield, Ben Westwood and Richard Whiting (  )might have a thing or two to say about that. And Ellis, next year.
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| Supposedly at the Wakey forum Paul johnson close to agreeing a new deal with them and Agar said they were close to getting Manu
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| Quote ="hullandbroncos"Supposedly at the Wakey forum Paul johnson close to agreeing a new deal with them and Agar said they were close to getting Manu'"
Manu to Wakey? WTF? Would be a complete waste of an excellent player.
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| Quote ="hullandbroncos"Supposedly at the Wakey forum Paul johnson close to agreeing a new deal with them and Agar said they were close to getting Manu'"
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| Just read the wakey thread, they've missed out on him but he wanted to go there.
That makes sense!
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Manu to Wakey? WTF? Would be a complete waste of an excellent player.'"
Apparently he wanted to go there and his agent told them he came close to signing. If true it shows a startling lack of ambition from Manu and also points to him being one of the 'Agaristas' who were unhappy at The Clueless One's sacking. Puts a whole new complexion on his decision to leave.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Apparently he wanted to go there and his agent told them he came close to signing. If true it shows a startling lack of ambition from Manu and also points to him being one of the 'Agaristas' who were unhappy at The Clueless One's sacking. Puts a whole new complexion on his decision to leave.'"
Or it could be and he was just been polite to wakey and agar.
Either way I hope he carries on his good form this season.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Apparently he wanted to go there and his agent told them he came close to signing. If true it shows a startling lack of ambition from Manu and also points to him being one of the 'Agaristas' who were unhappy at The Clueless One's sacking. Puts a whole new complexion on his decision to leave.'"
I've thought that for some time ,maybe some of these ooc players, don't like the intense training regime implemented by Gentle.
If any player at the club, is unhappy, - close the door on your way out.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"=#0040FFOr it could be rubbish and he was just been polite to wakey and agar.'"
Always good odds on that being the case on here.
Quote ="Sheldon"Either way I hope he carries on his good form this season.'"
Yup. Certainly not showing any signs of being 'unsettled' so far.
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| Not bothered about Johnson, too small for a prop and the fact that he is struggling to get into Wakey side says in all.
Watts, Burgess or Kopczak.
I really don't believe that Manu would even consider going to Wakey, unless they offered him a much bigger salary that Hull and Saints, would be a laughable and totally unambitious move.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Not bothered about Johnson, too small for a prop and the fact that he is struggling to get into Wakey side says in all.
Watts, Burgess or Kopczak.
I really don't believe that Manu would even consider going to Wakey, unless they offered him a much bigger salary that Hull and Saints, would be a laughable and totally unambitious move.'"
Liam Watts,potentially a good forward.
However, judging by his recent comments on Twitter regarding Hull FC fans, no thankyou!
Somebody stated there were only 73 HKR fans at the DW stadium,his reply was:
"Liam Watts@WATTSY7890
@tinkerman23 73 more than hull fc fans, they would of been nearly home at half time! Not our fans #HKRAWAYDAYS #hkr2012
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"I didn't think we were considering the NRL. He gets close to the top 10 though, IMO.
Slater, Smith, Cronk, Thurston, Gallen, Thaiday, Inglis and Marshall are definitely better in their positions, maybe a couple more.
He's still very young and will only get better.'"
why will he only get better?
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