so, it's a masterstroke to return a player, who is still under the red mist, back into the fray?

Child's performance should never be allowed to smokescreen the dismal failings of Agar as a coach. Stop being so pathetic

I beg to differ

Why send onto the pitch a player that was in no fit mental state to perfom, he was intent on getting his own back and the coaches should have been aware of that even sat in the stand. If they did not know then I suggest they move some one into the dug out that can communicate properly.

We have all seen players who have been subbed before the ref as acted , indeed many refs will send a clear message to either the bench or the captain that he had better be removed.

Don't call me for being pathetic simply because I don't accept your 'spin' against the club. I travelled 240 miles on Friday night to watch Child ruin my entertainment. I was livid on the way home because of his performance and nothing else. The views aired by the club I agree with wholeheartedly.

And your talk of smokescreen and alike is based entirely on a comment by Ian P - someone who is hardly a club sympathiser - who said he had heard that Long was ed off.



You're the one who needs to get a grip pal. And I notice you're unable to comment on the actual performance of the referee. Wonder why.

I only have your word for that so I will stick to what I know which was that until he was smashed again he had not acted in the way he did at the end.

I wasn't there, that's why.

In all the posts I have made since Friday's match, I have made absolutely no comment on Child's performance for the simple reason that because I never saw it, I cannot feel qualified to comment.

I have seen & read Agar & Hetherington's comments though and their actions fall far short of what I would expect from club officials.

That surprises me - I thought you must have been sat on the bench as you see fit to criticise the management for allowing Long back on the field when he was REALLY angry even though you can have no knowledge whatsoever of his state of mind.

So you wont comment about the ref but you will comment about the interchanges. Laughable.

FWIW,Long is experienced enough to keep his ''anger'' in check!

Lets look at the facts

Long binned in the 26/27th minute of the second half

Long red carded in the 36th/37th minute of the second half

That says he was hardly back on the pitch before being sent off.

So he never really had much chance to act the way he did before being sent off.

But, but, but, we'd have won if it wasn't for the ref

Don't use facts



I tried that and got the village idiot on having a go

Yet you berate people for criticising him who were actually there to see the clown.

Let's look at the facts.

We have one supporter on here who claims to have heard Long was 'angry'.

Pick and choose your "facts" why don't you ?

I have to say that long didn't seem to come back on looking for retribution and it was a reaction to the bad tackle he had just received IMO

Thanks for agreeing pal

Sorry Ian but that is rubbish to me, Long had to go back on as we needed him, sometimes player use anger to channel their energy, not a chance Long should have stayed off.

Like I keep saying he is having a huge tilt at getting that award.

I know, I had to go straight to bed after that

Give Williams a run at 7 next week, the ald has been getting MOTM nearly every week for the under 20's, has a good kicking game, one area we are awful at.

We might as well give the kid a chance to see what he can do.

I know people are going to say him being not ready, too young etc, but other teams like cas, Saints, Wigan and Hudds do it regulary.

I would at least have him on the bench.

No, I have berated people for not knowing The Laws of the Game and also for thinking that a petulant outburst by a coach (that is bound to attract a substantial fine), is a positive move.

I can berate you if you like for failing to comprehend what I've written

No chance that'll happen. Agar hasnt got the balls

Same with Will Sharp who should be dropped but it wont happen

You don't handle differing opinions well, do you? Always the snide remark. Disappointing really.

long derserved sending off, maybe radford derserved sinn bining, but all i ask for is the laws across the board, we didnt get that, cas did a few head shots and there where just warned,

On two occasions a Hull FC player was punched by a Castleford in full view of the touch judge and nothing was done.

yep fully agree, sooooooooooooo frustrating