He drifts in and out of games too much for me to put him in a key pivotal role. Ive only seen him have 1 good game playing 7 this year and again thought he was annonymous most of the derby.

I'd have said that from a distribution and defensive point of view TL has been the best of the 3 hookers this season with Berro been the worst.

Not trying to be smart but it's exactly that kind of attitude from the club that saw Richard Agar get appointed and sees him remain in his job. Everything you said about Horne is spot on but he's not cut out to be a captain and he probably wouldn't want to be anyway.

Because he's a quiet as a mouse for starters a good captain needs to be a good communicator. Nothing to do with being disrespectful, in fact I respect Horney more than any other player at the club, he's been a great servant, but he's no captain.

You know we are talking about passing dont you?

Some people just have it in for TL.

Youre not wrong. He has been one of very few highlights this season.

jog on, lee has had many a chance to impress me and he hasnt....
theres afew that have come and gone never to be seen again but afew have come and gone further than he has already and there not made out to be worldbeaters by some..

i was just stating players that wont be here next year in my opinion, and i dont think he will be.

Oh well he must be crap then



Jog on? How old are you?

age has nothing to do with it....i feel like many others that hull born players seem to have 9 lives when it comes to playing at fc....many of them are clearly not good enough but because there home grown we give them many a chance, in my opinion there is and has been afew from hull who aint good enough but seem to be in or around the squad for ages...do you not agree??

Lee has shown over previous years that he cant play 7 and he has admitted he doesnt like the responsibility of playing 7 and leading the team around. He has always tackled well above his weight.

This season we have had the common sense to play him 9 or 13 and he has been outstanding. Putting his previous seasons performances to one side at half back im not sure how you cant have noticed how good he has been this season at 9 and 13.

Thackray
Tickle
King
Lee
G.Horne
Tony

The 1st 4 for their off the field exploits, G.Horne because he is pretty much 1 of the worst players in SL and Tony due to his injuries and the fact we have Tansey.

You're clearly wrong.

Jog on.

Age has plenty to do with using a phrase like "jog on" unless you think your some sort of football hooligan or something? Dreary me.

A players place of birth has got nack all to do with my opinion on their ability. For instance G.Horne, Radford, King should all be shown the door IMO. Lee on the other has been getting slated for 2 seasons now even when he has a good game. Its usually by the clueless numpties who sit near me in the East stand who have zero knowledge of the game and just shout the same old cliches regardless of what is going on at that moment in time. People have made their mind up about him based on some poor performance when trying to lead the team through a poor spell and us usually happens refuse to change their mind despite evidence to the contrary.

9 better than berrigan or houghton???
13 better than whiting or washbrook or fitzgibbon??

i cant see where we can fit him in to be honest next season..

Try watching Houghton through the whole game rather than just when when he skoots from the PTB.

we'll agree to disagree, but are you and lee mates? you wont hear a bad word said, in my opinion, houghton is a better back-up number 2 hooker than lee...and if thats the case, where would you see him playing next season?

I wouldnt say i do at all however i really think his defence gets bigged up way too much on here as if he gets caught in a 1 on 1 situation he is really poor, the fact he is playing in the middle hides this alot of the time but any late footwork from forwards leaves him grabbing at thin air.

Also if you was a coach preparing to play us when Lee is at hooker you would pretty much tell your square markers to shoot off as Lee offers no running threat whatsoever as he just distributes off the ground he doesnt even jump out slightly to try and engage the square makers.

As for people saying he has played well at 13 thats just madness.

At 9 he has been better than the other 2 all season.
At 13 none of the 3 you have named have played there this season consistently.

Looking at next season i dont see how anyone could justify getting rid of our best hooker.
At 13 Washy will play there so no arguement.

thanks you very much...

berrigan could have one leg and still be first choice hooker over lee,no mistake about it...
he is an avergae hooker and i cant beleive people would have him over berrigan and or houghton next season

Nope and I have criticised him in the past. It just grates with me when people refuse to acknowledge that he does actually have a lot to offer, based on playing poorly at a time when the whole team was playing poorly.

What about the ascertion that he must have something on someone at the club, or we'd have moved him on long ago?