Indeed they do. They are professional sportsmen being paid handsomely to represent a club that every one of us would play for for nowt. They take the support of the fans for granted then bleat about it on SKY (step forward Lee Radford) if the fans get on their backs after a string of dire performances.

There can always be occasions where you try your best, and no matter how much effort you put in, things just don't work out for you. That's fair enough, and most of us would back a team like that through thick and thin.

What's happening at the moment is due mainly to lack of pride in the shirt, and lack of effort on the pitch.

And we wasted 2 on fat Sam!

someone posted earlier that we only used 8 interchanges, if that's the case then Agar has to look at himself rather than others, if he feels it's getting beyond him he has to have the balls to say so.

Lets not have a coach then when the players start sulking like there are now there might start looking at the players to sack. it,s a player power run club and it needs sorting out now.

Half time intervened and he did 8 minutes either side, apparently

Fk me. Even i could do better than that in my unfit alcoholic state

apparently so,and he might get back in when he apologises

Thats bloody stupid, it's a professional RL team not the bloody Scouts. Maybe Agar didn't like the fact that Thacks was right?

If he wanted to punish hm for swearing then he should fine him, not deny the club the services of one of the better performers in recent weeks.

If I was working for someone who only expected a colleague to do 15 minutes of work a week I thnk I might be a little bit less than "fully motivated"

correct

and its beyond me how people can be calling for agars head after a few defeats,i know its not about sentiment but the guy has a wife and 2 young kids to look after,i wouldnt wish my worst enemy to be out of a job especialy the way things are atm with the credit crunch,i agree with robbo leave things alone for now and maybe look elsewere at end of season if things dont change,seems as though the board had confidence in him been the right man regardless of what we think.

and before anyone says out no im not licking his ar-e i just think people are overeacting,people are entitled to there opinions and im sure everyones on here vary.

Thats not a bad shout.

i agree mate,only saying what ive been told,its maybe a load of bollox,who knows

First off, I'm not advocating that we sack Agar. But that's just plain daft.

Every coach we've ever sacked had some dependents, and if Agar were to be dismissed he'd get a substantial payoff.

Oh - and the confidence of the board means diddly squat. They were confident about Kear and Sharp as well.

ive said fook all



board out, coach out, team out (well some of em

)

thought youd be around

I was an Agar sceptic when the initial appointment was made and, like most, i had hoped that he would get his opportunity elsewhere to eventually lead Hull as an experienced first team coach at a later stage. Hull are a big club and over recent seasons (last season excluded) demonstrated that they were potentially on the verge of creating something very good. So, IMO at the time we appointed Agar we should of been appointing a tradesman - not an apprentice. Steve Foulkes expressed his interest and he would of been my pick, but i expect he wanted a reasonable salary as well (most probably the stumbling block). Agar will, as will any Hull coach, receive my full backing and i will reserve absolute judgement until the season closes.

keepin an eye on you....

















....and waitin for the Brother to kick start the revolution



ONWARD MARCH EVERYONE

Because he is clearly out of his depth, the interchanges and tactics are evidence enough, he should never have been in the position in the first place.



Who cares? Is he going to recompense me for my expenses for attending the game? No, it's a results business, he has not even accepted that he may shoulder some of the blame, nor has he apologised. The buck stops with him.



so, consign another season to the heap because of poor coaching, finish at the bottom, another season of embarassment? No thanks.



The board had confidence that he was cheap, he has never been "the right man for the job", it's why Kath was making decisions last season and they brought Sharp in for this one.

It's not the results per-se, it's the manner of the results and the complete lack of direction, like I said, the buck stops with Agar, hetook the plaudits of a Wembly appearance, he'll have to take the criticism now.

And on that note he is winning more then he is losing in his first full season. Not picking holes in your argument, i'm in agreement with nearly all of what you are saying, i do however feel it may be reasonable to give him an opprtunity to turn this around before he is fully condemned.

So if he doesn't apologise, do we pay him all season for sitting in the stands? Can't see that swearing is grounds for witholding his pay.

Don't you want your players to be pi$$ed off when subbed, it shows a bit of passion surely.

Better than paying a player doing porridge!

I guess I am just angry about yesterday, we looked apathetic and disinterested. We are out of the CC, we will not struggle the top 6 playing lik we have been, and I see no sign that Agar can change that.

How long do we give him, and more importantly, who comes in, I'd hate to have Sharp as head coach.

Agree wholeheartedly, I bet Moa doesn't moan when he finishes his weekly quarter!

My principal concern and the overarching factor in which i continue to back Agar as i'm sure that will be the inevitable and longterm replacement.

the way i see the club is...

in the blue corner: agar, rule, hetherington, sutton and co

and in the red corner: the players

and sat outside the ring, jon sharp, thinkin, do i get in the ring but to which corner??