If the appointment has already been made then it won't be on the radar any more, will it.



Seriously, I can't think of any reason why they'd even consider him so I'm inclined to believe your neighbour. The rumours are pretty strong though and I suppose stranger things have happened. Not getting my hopes up, mind.

Who gives a where he is as long as he isn't at the KC next year!

Stranger things have happened straight swap with wakey

The only thing I would say is all the other teams in SL have either decided the coach is staying or going pearson hasn't been very forth coming has he about agar I feel he may give him one year with a whole load of new players coming on board in pivotal positions

Yeah I'm sure Willie Mason will give Rovers a glowing reference

Willie mason ain't that well liked in nrl so I'm sure that won't make an ounce of difference

Thing is we don't exactly have a great track record when it comes appointing proven head coaches. Since Arthur Bunting was unceremoniously dismissed just before Christmas 1985 the following people have sat in the FC hot seat:

Dec 85 - May 86: Kenny Foulkes, Buntings assistant who I think was given the job on a caretaker basis until the end of the season.

June 86 - March 88: Len Casey, arrived from a lower league side as I recall, possibly York. I don't think he came back to us direct from rovers.

March 88 - May 88: Tony Dean / Keith Hepworth, part of Casey's backroom staff. Placed in temporary charge for the last few games of the 87/88 season while the board tried to come up with a cunning plan to get us out of the mess they (and Casey) had gotten us into.

June 88 - Jan 91: Brian Smith, the board's cunning plan pays dividends. Takes a side who where everyones favourites to go down and turned them into a top 4 side. Can't remember where he came from, but I don't seem to recall him arriving as an ARL head coach (though he was when he left).

Jan 91 - April 92: Noel Cleal, the board's cunning plan goes badly awry. Proving the old adage that great players don't always make great coaches, although this may possibly be due to the club over-reaching itself financially during Brian Smith's tenure with poor Cleal having to pick up the bill. (see Standee's various posts on the subject for further details).

June 92 - June 94: Royce Simmons, Again can't quite recall where he joined us from, possibly an assistant at Penrith. Don't think he was a head coach in Aus at that point but may be wrong on that score. Steadied the ship after a traumatic 91/92 season.

June 94 - Dec 94: Tony Gordon, Possibly arrived at the Boulevard via NZ club rugby. At least he had some head coach expeirence to lean back on, not that it did him much good (or us for that matter).

Dec 94 - May 95: My memory's a little foggy about this bit, but weren't a couple of senior players put in charge for the second half of the 94/95 season. Possibly Johan Windley & Russ Walker while the board worked out where to go to next.

June 95 - Aug 97: Phil Sigsworth, Like Royce Simmons I have a feeling he came over here having been an assistant at an ARL club. Manly possibly where he'd enjoyed a highly successful playing career. Again like Simmons he steadied the boat after we were dropped a division in the wake of the SL reorganisation in the summer 95. Put us back into the top division after 2 seasons downstairs.

Aug 97 - June 99: Peter Walsh, oh dear oh dear oh dear. Lloyd/Wilby replace the highly popular Sigsworth with their own puppet (or muppet).

June 99 - Sept 99: Another temporary coaching set-up. This may have been the Windley/Walker period instead of early 1995. Of course we now know the club had a far bigger fight on its hands than merely avoiding relegation, fighting for its very existance as a club.

Nov 99 - Sept 04: Shaun McCrae, hurrah at last a proven head coach with a track record and an ability to win proper big boys trophies like the league & C.Cup. Of course this is slightly tempered by the fact that we didn't actually appoint him as such. We inherited him as part of the merger.

Sept 04 - April 06: John Kear, McCrae's assistant, albeit one with previous expeirence as a head coach.

May 06 - May 08: Peter Sharp, assistant coach from the NRL (Manly?). Barely put a foot wrong during his first 6 months in charge. Barely put a foot right during the remainder of his spell. His obsession with utility players is one of the reasons we are currently floundering in mid-table.

May 08 - ???????: Richard Agar, assistant to Sharp (and Kear for that matter). Promoted above and beyond his natural level of capabilities.

Since Christmas 1985 we've had 15 different head coaches/coaching teams in place (including 4 temporary/interim coaches). Out of those only 3 (McCrae, Kear and possibly Tony Gordon?) arrived at the club with any expeirence of been head coach at the top level. As I said earlier we didn't appoint McCrae but inherited him as part of the merger package. Although Kear had been a head coach in the past (with a C.Cup victory on his CV) he was an assistant promoted up to the position in 2004.

The only inspired appointment during the last 25 years has been Brian Smith who exceeded all expectations during his time in charge by taking an average side and lifting them into the top 4. Although the ramifications of what he left behind may have contributed to the club's problems as the decade progressed.(Cue reply from Standee

). Either way, one inspired coaching appointment in a 25 year period is a shocking return and points towards repeated mistakes being made by successive boards.

Of course not all of the above have been abject failures. Some (Simmons, Sigsworth) made a decent fist of the job without a great deal to play with (player or money wise). Others (McCrae, Kear, Sharp) achieved a certain level of success without quite being able to make the final step and turn us into one of the game's powerhouses.

Most on here now agree that a change is needed in the position of head coach if we are to progress and maybe realise the full potential of this club. Removing Richard Agar is only half of the equation however. What happens after that with regards to his replacement will probably determine our standing within the game for the next few years. Looking at that list above doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the club's ability to pull a rabbit out of the hat.

It is to be hoped that Adam Pearson can turn 25 years of history on its head and appoints either (a) an established name with a proven track record for winning the game's major honours (like Tony Smith at Wire) or (b) an apprentice who turns out to be the king maker (ala McGuire at Wigan). If he gets it wrong there is a very real possibility that this entire decade could disappear in a welter of missed opportunities and lower/mid table mediocrity.

(As pointed out above, I can't remember exactly where some of the Aussie coaches came from prior to taking the coaching job with us. If anyone can fill the blank spaces in I'd be grateful. Of course, you may heartily disagree with everything I've said and put me right accordingly

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Hands OFF Trent Robinson !!!

Who's your assistant coach or more likely the assistant to the assistant. That tends to be about the level we operate at when it comes to a recruitment drive.

Great post it was windley and walker in 94 and Stevecrooks in 1999

Excuse me?

Keep your thoughts to yourself you rude man.

We all know now what is going on, Gingerspice, that font of RL knowledge who cannot master the art of full stops and capital letters has a neighbour who has shares in Wakey and has cleared up the whole sorry mess.

Perhaps this shareholder should let the Coaches and players involved know what is going on because they seem to have a different take on it all

How very dare you, obviously shareholders discuss these things with neighbours.

especially given that Wakey don't actually have many shareholders, wasn't it taken over by a sole investor?

maybe we should ask vastman, he knows everything about Wakey (that isn't true)

Ha ha, just humour her mate.

I actually have shares in Hull KR, as does my Grandad, it does not mean I know who will be their new Coach next season.

Unless Glover is her neighbour (I reckon he has more class than to live somewhere like that with his money) she is very much in a 'know nowt' situation I feel

Great post and only 1 flaw, It was Phil Windley not Johan, Johan was his son and was just breaking into the side as a kid at the time.

I wonder if these rumours linking Agar to another club, is a smokescreen!!

Last time, he was linked to another job (GB),the board panicked and subsequently rewarded
him with a renewed contract.

God help us, if this scenario reoccurs!!

It will be the final nail in the coffin for Hull FC.

You honestly believe that Agar is cunning enough to orchestrate such an elaborate scheme?

Well.... maybe not Agar , but his agent !!!

I can not for the life of me understand why anyone would appoint this loser as their coach. He has done the square root of nowt during his tenure with us. If things aren't bad enough for Wakey, their linked with our coach - gutted for em!

Brothers arnt they?

yeah defo brothers

My Mistake

Easy mistake to make as windley looked about 53 even though he was only about 28.

Came to us from Illawarra IIRC