Other than that, how did he do? Sheens seemed pretty disappointed on the radio, was it a defensive issue with the team?

Both parent clubs don't have a recall option.

All three parties would have to agree to it, unless it is stipulated in the contracts. So effectively you're right, but it'd be interesting to see what happens if either team has a major injury crisis. Hopefully that won't happen though, as the players involved are getting valuable game time and experience.

The Fail said he was being used almost as an extra forward. I like the idea of him ending up as a ball playing 13 so at least he's getting the chance to toughen up.

Talking of ex players, I saw at the weekend that Brad Clavering has signed for Rovers from us, he was well thought of and played for England Academy, not sure what has happened there?

Interesting. He looked a good prospect in the U19s and he featured in the U23s.

He is being used as a HB pivot but he seems to like to take the line on so I can see why they are saying he;s been used as a forward..

He's going well in a side that's still finding its feet. Ellis looks the more accomplished HB at the moment but thats to be expected given their relative experience. He looks really good when executing set moves and has good hands, but still has to work on the more off the cuff plays and have better awareness of whats around him. There were a couple of times that with the right ball a player was away but he took on the line instead.

Sheen's certainly seems to like him though so he must have seen something he likes (attitude I would assume) and that's a good sign. Will be able to better judge in 6 or so weeks when he's bedding in better.

According to Rovers when the signings were made there was no recall clause in either agreement and the loan deals are for the full season including any middle eight involvemnet. The possibility of a major injury crises at either FC or Hudds is therefore irrelevant. Some on here have questioned the commitment of the two players in they should meet their parent club in the middle eights. I think this is unlikely as I cannot see Hudds being as poor again this season and it should not be a problem for FC. In any case I do not believe either player would give less than their best in any of their games whilst with us.

Thanks for that. Hope it works out for him at Hull as would be good to keep him in the area. As has been said, it's a great opportunity for all parties.

Fair enough then! Thanks for that. Hopefully it won't come to having to put themselves in that position, as you have said.

He's put in 2 pretty half decent performances so far for us in the league.

He's been creative, his passing and link up play has been sharp and he likes to take on the line often to good effect, especially against London.

Defensively he has been sound after his sub par showing in preseason at Leeds.

He needs to improve his kicking game as his high bombs have so far not caused any issues for the opposition and he needs eliminate his try line fever and to be less selfish after a clean break when there have been better passing options to support players.

Definitely a keeper for us on his performances to date.

Sounded like a hard fought win in tough conditions.

He wasn't on his own in terms of errors, needs to learn to play what's in front of him and adapt to the conditions and not just go ahead with a set play. Poor performance by the team yesterday.

Had another decent game today,also brings something to the party in defence also.

The wind was so strong today that on one Oldham kick off they caught the ball direct from their kick off in their own half, now I thought it was just football that the flight of the ball is always live and in rugby it's the landing , I'd ask on our board folks but it's tumbleweed these days.

irrc a game we played a couple of seasons ago, cant remember the oppostion, the wind was so strong that when we kicked off from a restart, the ball went past the 10m but the wind held it up and we regathered, the ball doesnt have to land just as long as it passes the 10m mark

Thanks no6 cleared it up, thought it must be the case as it happened twice, just the refs at this level craaaaaazzzzyy

Should have been MOM today scored a good try and is like having another forward needs to work on his kicking though

Played well yesterday, interesting to hear Tim Sheen's appraisal of him that he has a good running game and has lot of 13 in his game. I wonder if he see's that as his eventual position? I know its something a few Hull fans have debated in the past.

I think he would be best suited as a 13, but Radford (And most teams to be fair), dont like to play a ball playing 13,

If we had a ball playing LF, it would take the pressure off Shaul and allow him to play his natural game

1:Shaul
6:Kelly
7:Sneyd
13:Abdul

He would have to improve his fitness (Which he seems have done this year) and his defence to play that role though.

I have major doubts he will be at Hull next year.

He won't play for us again . We should have kept him here .

I think its the right decision to let him go out on loan, as I don't think he would have got much game time this year at Hull, I'm not sure that Hull will want him back and if he will want to come back if he isn't likely to get gametime in 2018.

I think alot will depend on if Rovers get promoted or not.

There's no guarantee Kelly will be here next year.

The post match interview with TS went into this a bit as he was discussing how we have been playing Addy there who is a good ball player but lacks a bit of go forward and yesterday we went with Donaldson who has go forward but needs better ball playing skills. Sheen's certainly seemed to be an advocate of a ball playing 13.

Quite right. In any case if Abdul improves this year with the experience he's getting it wouldn't be a great idea to let a home grown player leave. Even if Kelly stays there is no reason why a spot couldn't be found for Abdul if his form justified it.