Wigan fans have wanted Knobbys head for a while.

IMO the Wire squad is better than ours in most positions. In particular they have far better halfbacks and a much bigger pack.

Only Cullen stopped them being a real force this season. Under Smith they are starting to realise their potential.

Thought he made quite a few errors tonight TBH. The effort was good but blew a few chances in attack.

Took him nearly 2 seasons though...every time i have seen him he has been very average and he was $hite last week.

Disagree totally...Monaghan isnt much better than thorman and Briers better than Horne?????

best post for along time..couldnt agree more

Monaghan has more ability in his little finger than Thorman has in his entire body. He hasn't exactly been in sparkling form since joining Wire but is still capable of putting in performances that Thorman can only dream about.

agree with that aswell

Horne and Briers have different skills I'd take Monaghan any day over Thorman.

Have to disagree with that.

They have a better set of props and a canny scrum half in briers. Their backs are nothing special man for man (imagine the outcry if we had signed Mathers!).

A very well coached team now though.....

Horne isn't currently playing halfback.

Monaghan is a lot better than Thorman, although I'll grant you that he doesn't show it often enough.

When?????

He has been a big waste of money....check the Wire board about him...they cant wait for him to bugger off.

He's crap as well.

And where saying the same about Thorman after only half the season.

Oh ffs......nitpicking to back up a weak argument.

Yeah but he has always been crap....i wouldnt have either of them.

Mattew Head over them both.

But I don't think any of us expected a huge influencial signing in Thorman like Wire did in Monaghan though and there will be a big difference money wise too.

Wire have always had a good team on paper but haven't had a coach capable of bringing the best out of them to play as a team, us on the other hand are worse off as we don't have the players to work with so from my point of view its goign to take a couple of years to turn it around even if we did get a super coach in.

You don't think we have a squad capable of challenging with some decent coaching behind them?

I think your name suits you tbh.

If we had had a decent coach...we would have won another 3 matches at least.

I dont think jesus could do anything with what we have at Hull.

we carry to many players on sentimental value in my opinion, resulting in us having average players boarding crap. so no i don't think we are capable of winning anything until we sort out our halves and get rid of the dead wood in our team.