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| Quote ="TrevLovesJanice"I agree. It is not as respectful for the "old school" players, and seems a cop-out compared to a silence.
You can tell if people have contributed to a silence, but not if they have contributed to a "noise".
Poor decision IMO.'"
Hull usually do what the family wants so how can it be a poor decision.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Hull usually do what the family wants so how can it be a poor decision.'"
Quote ="black & white cat"People just like to winge for the sake of it'"
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| I like the silence better then the noise, but will go with what ever the family want.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Hull usually do what the family wants so how can it be a poor decision.'"
I used the three letters "IMO", which means that in my opinion it is a poor decision.
The family can of course have what they want, but my opinion as a non-family member (which means it doesn't count) is that it's a poor decision. I just feel the silences are far more respectful and moving.
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| Quote ="Coach"I like the silence better then the noise, but will go with what ever the family want.'"
So do i, it is IMO much more respectful. The only reason they tend to go with the noise/applause is to placate the airheads who enjoy spoiling the silence, though it has to be said this is rugby not football and by and large the silence is usually impeccable.
But like you said if its the family wishes then thats all that matters really.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"So do i, it is IMO much more respectful. The only reason they tend to go with the noise/applause is to placate the airheads who enjoy spoiling the silence, though it has to be said this is rugby not football and by and large the silence is usually impeccable.
But like you said if its the family wishes then thats all that matters really.'"
One of the problems with a minutes silence at the KC is the noise that comes form the concourse, people out there create a background noise (not on purpose I must add) as they are probably unaware what is happenning inside. I myself prefer a minutes silence but I do feel uncomfortable by any noise generated either intentionally or not.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"One of the problems with a minutes silence at the KC is the noise that comes form the concourse, people out there create a background noise (not on purpose I must add) as they are probably unaware what is happenning inside. I myself prefer a minutes silence but I do feel uncomfortable by any noise generated either intentionally or not.'"
You took the words right out of my mouth the b^%&$*y noise coming from there is terrible the stewards should make sure when it starts they let the people in the back no aswel.
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| That was communicated to the club & SMC
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| The family is given the option.
Like most aspects of deaths and burials it comes down to personal choice and what is repectful is recognising the families wishes, personally I would want noise to celebrate a life lived.
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| Cant believe this is even being discussed to be honest!
Family and Club say make noise - then make noise!
You want to show your respect - then do as requested.
Its as simple as that.
If someone had a funeral and they wanted Roses only, its EXTREMELY rude to then say something like "in my opinon id say Lillies are better"
If someone asked you to wear white to a funeral and sing every song with gusto - you even discussing or questioning their request is in really poor taste. You wouldnt wear black and sing quietly, the way you show your respect is by doing whats expected.
NOT QUESTION IT!
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| Quote ="ExiledFromHull"Cant believe this is even being discussed to be honest!
Family and Club say make noise - then make noise!
You want to show your respect - then do as requested.
Its as simple as that.
If someone had a funeral and they wanted Roses only, its EXTREMELY rude to then say something like "in my opinon id say Lillies are better"
If someone asked you to wear white to a funeral and sing every song with gusto - you even discussing or questioning their request is in really poor taste. You wouldnt wear black and sing quietly, the way you show your respect is by doing whats expected.
NOT QUESTION IT!'"
nice outbusrt, and completely out of order.
Nowhere has it been said it was the families request, although Wilf has alluded to the fact that it could have been.
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| Quote ="Standee"nice outbusrt, and completely out of order.
Nowhere has it been said it was the families request, although Wilf has alluded to the fact that it could have been.'"
It has been mentioned it was the families request by at least 3 people.
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| Thanks Paul!
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| Quote ="Hutchie"This will be followd by the usual 79 minutes silence at the KC
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Especially as the yellow cards may be out if its inappropriate noise!
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| Quote ="PAUL M"It has been mentioned it was the families request by at least 3 people.'"
none of which are officially in the know from the club or the family.
anyway, they are my respects, it's down to me how I show them.
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| Standee
Maybe you are in the fortunate position of not having lost someone close to you.
Because i know that even at church funerals, the families wishes are one of the first things asked about the most importnat thing to consider at a memorial/funeral.
I would find it massivley surprising if HullFC didnt ask how the family how they would like to the tribute to be conducted.
Maybe your natural pesimism is to blame, but i dont think any organisation makes it public knowledge that they are consulting the recently bereaved family on how a memorial is conducted - its just a given fact that they do!
As for them being your respects, youve clearly lost the concept, its not how YOU show them, its how you respect the wishes of how the deceased person would WANT you to show them!
As i said before, if a family requested you wear white to a funeral, you wouldnt wear black just because thats how YOU want to show it.
The fact you wore black would be disrespectful in its own right.
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| Im just glad the club are doing something .
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| Quote ="ExiledFromHull" but i dont think any organisation makes it public knowledge that they are consulting the recently bereaved family on how a memorial is conducted - its just a given fact that they do!'"
On the last few occasions where "noise" has been requested there has been a direct comment about it.
I am not saying it hasn't been this time, just observing that it's a few posters on the mb that are stating such.
I am not a pessimist, I am realistic, this is a discussion forum, hence we are discussing the ways in which we find it appropriate to pay respects.
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| Quote ="Sir Phoenix"Good decision and very well deserved by Arthur'"
not a fan at all of a minutes noise i think its disrestectful i be having a minutes silence still. its about reflection not here and now
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| great way to show your respects to a legend - by doing your own thing!
marvellous attitude!
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| Quote ="Standee"none of which are officially in the know from the club or the family.
anyway, they are my respects, it's down to me how I show them.'"
Whilst I will disregard my own feelings and do what has been asked.
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| Quote ="ExiledFromHull"great way to show your respects to a legend - by doing your own thing!
marvellous attitude!'"
show me where the family have been quoted as requesting this, that is my point.
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| Quote ="Standee"show me where the family have been quoted as requesting this, that is my point.'"
While I see your point, it does seem to be extremely unlikely that the club would opt for a minutes noise unless it was requested by the family. If in any doubt, the 'safe' option would have been a minutes silence.
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| Quote ="Kosh"While I see your point, it does seem to be extremely unlikely that the club would opt for a minutes noise unless it was requested by the family. If in any doubt, the 'safe' option would have been a minutes silence.'"
I don't disagree Kosh, it was simply an observation, but that hasnt stopped a few getting all self righteous as they always seem to do when responsing to my username, as opposed to the content of my posts.
Anyway, so long as people pay their respects in a way they feel comfortable I don't see a problem.
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| Quote ="ExiledFromHull"
As i said before, if a family requested you wear white to a funeral, you wouldnt wear black just because thats how YOU want to show it.
The fact you wore black would be disrespectful in its own right.'"
Ive been to a funeral were the request was to wear red n white
needless to say i never obliged to that
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