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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"It's all getting very interesting. He's been over here a few weeks, presumably not just to take in a few games and to see the sights of Northern England.
Could do with a few announcements from the likes of Wigan and Cas to make the situation a little clearer. Or preferably from Pearson of course.
[uI'd be astonished if Wakefield could snare the Australian assistant coach.[/u'"
My thoughts too, sort of why I thought Gentle to FC could be an attractive option for us and him. Not to mention the endless puns for the HDM headline writers. As you say, too many "known unknowns" at the moment - need some permutations to be eliminated.
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| AP indicated in that interview that October people would realise our intentions...
Morgan indicated when commentating in the C/up semis that he hoped all would be revealed in a week or so....
When does the Rugby Union World Cup finish
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"AP indicated in that interview that October people would realise our intentions...
Morgan indicated when commentating in the C/up semis that he hoped all would be revealed in a week or so....
When does the Rugby Union World Cup finish
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23rd October
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"AP indicated in that interview that October people would realise our intentions...
Morgan indicated when commentating in the C/up semis that he hoped all would be revealed in a week or so....
When does the Rugby Union World Cup finish
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or after october the 10th! SL grand final
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| Heard today we've signed Sam tomkins for 2012
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| Quote ="black and white"Heard today we've signed Sam tomkins for 2012'"
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| Agar has an interview with two others at Wakefield this week, from a high profile ex Hull player in London this week. Pray let it be true and good luck Richard.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Really? Surprised you've not mentioned it.
Seriously, though, if we were to bring in one of those 2 for next season, we'd have a set of props with an average age of 30. When one of those props is only 25 that's some going. We need younger blood bringing in, our pack as a whole is getting old.
In fact, I've just totted up: Our pack of signed up forwards (excluding hookers) for next year has an average age of 28. By the end of May it will be nearer 29. And that's with Westerman at 22 dragging the average down.
My worry is that our pack is approaching it's sell-by date, and at roughly the same time as both Warrington's and Leeds'. I'm not confident that if we leave it to come down to a fight for players between us and those 2 teams that we'll even come off 2nd best.'"
Lol yeah thought I might as well throw Andy Lynch name into the ring being one of the best props in super league and being english as well
I know where you are coming from regard the age thing but I am a big believer that props can go much longer in the game then say the backs as its usually your pace you lose as you get older not your strength. It all comes down to how well you have looked after your body and just hope u dont have a coach what will just flog u to death when u need a rest.
The reason I say Fielden and Lynch are they are both good props and can still do a Job and they are certainly an upgrade on the likes of Radford and dowes and we dont need to worry about the quota and I can see there clubs letting them leave for cash.
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| Quote ="Tongan Mafia"Lol yeah thought I might as well throw Andy Lynch name into the ring being one of the best props in super league and being english as well
I know where you are coming from regard the age thing but I am a big believer that props can go much longer in the game then say the backs as its usually your pace you lose as you get older not your strength. It all comes down to how well you have looked after your body and just hope u dont have a coach what will just flog u to death when u need a rest.'"
I think that definitely used to be true, but isn't so much any more. Playing past 34 at top flight level is very rare now, in fact plenty finish around 32. Even the great Webcke called it a day then (and he was only just 32 as well), and he kept himself in very good shape and played under the best coach around.
Quote ="Tongan Mafia"The reason I say Fielden and Lynch are they are both good props and can still do a Job and they are certainly an upgrade on the likes of Radford and dowes and we dont need to worry about the quota and I can see there clubs letting them leave for cash.'"
You know my feelings on transfer fees for over 30s. Just because we've got a new owner doesn't mean we have money to waste, it needs to be used more wisely than on soon-to-be-retired players for just 1 or 2 seasons.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I think that definitely used to be true, but isn't so much any more. Playing past 34 at top flight level is very rare now, in fact plenty finish around 32. Even the great Webcke called it a day then (and he was only just 32 as well), and he kept himself in very good shape and played under the best coach around.
You know my feelings on transfer fees for over 30s. Just because we've got a new owner doesn't mean we have money to waste, it needs to be used more wisely than on soon-to-be-retired players for just 1 or 2 seasons.'"
So which youngsters would you go after who are actually able to compete at a high standard at super league already? And please dont say Burgess as he wants to go to the NRL so he would be a waste as we would help his progression only to see him jump ship.
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| There could be a argument that this is of our own making, not having either the ability or patience in bringing our own youngsters on.
Would Wheeldon be a better option than Dowes/Radford, Graeme Horne better than Washbrook (especially with our system), Tommy Lee or Hodgson better than Obst?
If were not careful the same will happen to Crooks, Lyne, Green, Bowden.
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| Quote ="black and white"Heard today we've signed Sam tomkins for 2012'"
Final warning.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"There could be a argument that this is of our own making, not having either the ability or patience in bringing our own youngsters on.
Would Wheeldon be a better option than Dowes/Radford, Graeme Horne better than Washbrook (especially with our system), Tommy Lee or Hodgson better than Obst?
If were not careful the same will happen to Crooks, Lyne, Green, Bowden.'"
Exactly, you reap what you sow. Personally, I don't think Wheeldon would be better than Radford, Horne would be better than Washbrook but I do think Hodgson would be better than Obst (at hooker, not as a stand in 7). I'd have taken none of them over what we had for this season.
All this crap started in 09 when the season was gone. Instead of giving youth a chance to gain experience in meaningless games, Agar brought in Codobra, Broughton, Tansey.
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"Exactly, you reap what you sow. Personally, I don't think Wheeldon would be better than Radford, Horne would be better than Washbrook but I do think Hodgson would be better than Obst (at hooker, not as a stand in 7). I'd have taken none of them over what we had for this season.
All this crap started in 09 when the season was gone. Instead of giving youth a chance to gain experience in meaningless games, Agar brought in Codobra, Broughton, Tansey.'"
Speaking of temporary signings, it's nice to see Matt Head on Twitter speaking fondly of Hull FC and showing off his framed Hull FC shirts. Always good to have FC advocates in Oz. It's a shame he was made out of biscuit, could of had good and long career in the game.
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| Quote ="Phil O'Stein"Speaking of temporary signings, it's nice to see [size=200Matt Head [/sizeon Twitter speaking fondly of Hull FC and showing off his framed Hull FC shirts. Always good to have FC advocates in Oz. It's a shame he was made out of biscuit, could of had good and long career in the game.'"
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"also thought the board were a bunch of nice person$ for what they did to sharp...
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Final warning.'"
I know his "rumours" are outlandish but surely he is breaking no rules by posting them? It's not like we haven't heard plenty of made up ones on here over the last few years.
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| Quote ="hullbg"I know his "rumours" are outlandish but surely he is breaking no rules by posting them? It's not like we haven't heard plenty of made up ones on here over the last few years.'"
The kid (that's what I'm guessing he is, because he acts like one) is just plain annoying who contributes nothing to the site. Why would you even consider giving him benefit of the doubt. It's pointless him been on the site. Just get rid of him, the sooner the better.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Final warning.'"
Final warning for what? Putting rumours on the rumours thread?
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| Quote ="black and white"Final warning for what? Putting rumours on the rumours thread?'"
There is a difference between posting a genuine rumour(that you can possibly back up with a news article or have others back you up) and posting bull you made up in your own head just to annoy the other posters on here.
IMO Your just a troll who needs banning perminently!
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| Quote ="gazcoops"There is a difference between posting a genuine rumour(that you can possibly back up with a news article or have others back you up) and posting bull you made up in your own head just to annoy the other posters on here.
IMO Your just a troll who needs banning perminently!'"
Whilst i appreciate what you're saying here, i bet 99% of the tosh on this thread isn't substantiated with any real evidence!
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| Quote ="GM1"Whilst i appreciate what you're saying here, i bet 99% of the tosh on this thread isn't substantiated with any real evidence!'"
98% actually
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| Quote ="downtheante"98% actually'"
I heard a rumour that backs that up
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| Quote ="GM1"Whilst i appreciate what you're saying here, i bet 99% of the tosh on this thread isn't substantiated with any real evidence!'"
There is still a substantial difference between posting genuine rumours (no matter how unsubstantiated) and posting made-up rubbish to seek attention and annoy. The latter is arguably prohibited under a couple of AUP sections.
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