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| One of your better and least sarcastic posts, Jake. Genuinely, if you were making the decision, who would you bring in, if Radford would standby and see a mentor type assistant.
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| Quote ="Armavinit"One of your better and least sarcastic posts, Jake. Genuinely, if you were making the decision, who would you bring in, if Radford would standby and see a mentor type assistant.'"
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| Quote ="Armavinit"One of your better and least sarcastic posts, Jake. Genuinely, if you were making the decision, who would you bring in, if Radford would standby and see a mentor type assistant.'"
My posts may occasionally be sarcastic but when I'm being serious they are always bob on so don't believe any cr4p other posters may post about me.
Genuinely? Who the hell knows? If you can give me a list of:
1) who is available
2) which of those is prepared to come and
3) what our budget and desire to do it is
I'll tell you who I'd chooses
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"My posts may occasionally be sarcastic but when I'm being serious they are always bob on so don't believe any cr4p other posters may post about me.
Genuinely? Who the hell knows? If you can give me a list of:
1) who is available
2) which of those is prepared to come and
3) what our budget and desire to do it is
I'll tell you who I'd chooses'"
I'm worried they might decide to bring Cooke in as assistant. That just about might do me in.
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| Quote ="Graham Richards"Do you not for one moment think its a result of all thats gone before. There are one or two on here who always harp back to the Walsh era as if its some badge of honour that you were there throughout a bad period in the clubs history.
If you take a trip back over the recent history of the club, what I call the KC years, then consider everything that has happened. In that time we have had lots of promise, far to many false dawns and propaganda thrown at us constantly. 2005 was the pinnacle with Kear, Swain, Horne etc delivering what we have wanted. 2006 saw a coach (who some seem to slag off for reasons I fail to understand) take us on a fantastic journey from also rans to grand finalist. What have we had to endure since.
I make this season as being the 8th season of transition.
Also since the move to the KC we have moved into a fast digital age, where everything is accessible. at the flick of a switch. Our entertainment is moving in all directions. We have also been in the grip of the worst recession in living history. But despite that 12000+ of the good folk of this fine land of ours have regularly attended games to watch our beloved Hull FC.
I am in my 38th season of supporting the club. I have a wife and kids to support now as well as the club. Sometimes priorities change especially when in all honesty the quality of the product on the pitch is so incredibly poor, when you consider everything that is given to our so called heroes.
So I would say its not just a case of what has happened in the past 22 competitive games and the p poor friendlies, since we qualified for the play offs in 2013. Its a sum of all that has gone before since that great day in Cardiff in 2005. Thats why (i imagine) the straw has broken the camels back this season.'"
Great post!
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| Quote ="steve_norton"I'm worried they might decide to bring Cooke in as assistant. That just about might do me in.'"
I would be quite happy for Cooke to work on the attacking structures and another experienced guy to guide and advise Radford. Who that guy is, well there are plenty of good assistants kicking about that I would like to see, but the question is who would be willing to come to play second fiddle.
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| Quote ="steve_norton"I'm worried they might decide to bring Cooke in as assistant. That just about might do me in.'"
It's going to happen, isn't it? Cooke as attacking coach. Fits the remit of local lads for local club - he'll 'get' it -
Pearson gets to keep Radford whilst also being seen to be doing something constructive. Plus Cooke and Radford are close, it ticks all the boxes.
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| The problem with Hull this year is they are doing the opposite of a champion team, who manage to scrape a win when not everything is a going right. This year Hull have had an uncanny ability to do just enough to lose. With their points difference they should be looking around 6th and comfortably in the 8 but they just keep finding ways to lose. There have been some gutsy efforts against the better teams (Wigan excepted) which if replicated against the lower down the table ones would have seen comfortable enough wins, but no, the team magically adjusts its performance down to squeeze out a loss. What is particularly frustrating is that well into the season we still have no hint of any settled combination or who is the best player for a position because of all the chopping and changing, injuries not withstanding.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"I would be quite happy for Cooke to work on the attacking structures and another experienced guy to guide and advise Radford. Who that guy is, well there are plenty of good assistants kicking about that I would like to see, but the question is who would be willing to come to play second fiddle.'"
Cooke already signed 1 year extension at Doncaster
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| Quote ="Erik the not red"The problem with Hull this year is they are doing the opposite of a champion team, who manage to scrape a win when not everything is a going right. This year Hull have had an uncanny ability to do just enough to lose. With their points difference they should be looking around 6th and comfortably in the 8 but they just keep finding ways to lose. There have been some gutsy efforts against the better teams (Wigan excepted) which if replicated against the lower down the table ones would have seen comfortable enough wins, but no, the team magically adjusts its performance down to squeeze out a loss. What is particularly frustrating is that well into the season we still have no hint of any settled combination or who is the best player for a position because of all the chopping and changing, injuries not withstanding.'"
Good post...... That is because Radford still has no clue who his best players are, and without a settled squad/13, there is no chance of the combos you speak of ever becoming 2nd nature to the player.
To me it seems that as soon as a player, who is not Radford's mate or purchase, has a bad game or speaks out of turn in class, he is dropped. I'm not saying let players continually perform crap or get away with murder, but we need to have a settled squad for anything to happen on the pitch.
All about man management and I feel that Radford has none.
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| Quote ="GM1"Good post...... That is because Radford still has no clue who his best players are, and without a settled squad/13, there is no chance of the combos you speak of ever becoming 2nd nature to the player.
To me it seems that as soon as a player, who is not Radford's mate or purchase, has a bad game or speaks out of turn in class, he is dropped. I'm not saying let players continually perform crap or get away with murder, but we need to have a settled squad for anything to happen on the pitch.
All about man management and I feel that Radford has none.'"
Can't argue with that. We should have had a settled squad long before now... and we're still waiting!
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| It's the FC cokey,
You put your scrum half in, your scrum half out, in out, in out and then you scream and shout
You do the FC cokey then you're going down and that's what it's all about
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| Anybody know what Phil Sigworths upto these days.
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| Quote ="paintman"Anybody know what Phil Sigworths upto these days.'"
$14.50 an hour?
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| it has been said before but if we change the coach we must use the opportunity to let the new man bring in his own staff, and also recruit personnel with no previous ties to the club. the time has surely come to sever the ties to the past. we can move forward with a more talented and experienced set up who carry no FC baggage. it will cost money but as this season has shown, you tend to get what you pay for.
the main problem is that pearson has nobody to show him how to go about this
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| Our league campaigns since 2007 have been consistently poor no matter who the coach or players are. Fans patience has slowly been erased each and every season by promises not kept and potential not reached. That's why now you are getting fans either losing all interest and abandoning the club, or diehard fans who have become overly negative and cynical. I think most people have reached this point which is why there are a lot of knee jerk reactions to individual games. A lot of fans believe that Radford is not the correct man for the job, myself included, but I hope like mad that he proves me wrong in the long term. If we only have one positive to take from the past few seasons, it's evident our youth structures and pathways are working and that we have a coach giving them every opportunity to replace the senior players who have underachieved in the past. We also have an owner who has invested heavily and is passionate as we are about the club. We do have some good players at this club, and some great ones coming through. I don't think we are as far away as it seems at the moment, we just have a few key areas in recruitment to address and need to show the door to some poor players as well as great servants to the club who unfortunately no longer cut the mustard to take us to the next level.
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| Quote ="fcandy"Our league campaigns since 2007 have been consistently poor no matter who the coach or players are. Fans patience has slowly been erased each and every season by promises not kept and potential not reached. That's why now you are getting fans either losing all interest and abandoning the club, or diehard fans who have become overly negative and cynical. I think most people have reached this point which is why there are a lot of knee jerk reactions to individual games. A lot of fans believe that Radford is not the correct man for the job, myself included, but I hope like mad that he proves me wrong in the long term. If we only have one positive to take from the past few seasons, it's evident our youth structures and pathways are working and that we have a coach giving them every opportunity to replace the senior players who have underachieved in the past. We also have an owner who has invested heavily and is passionate as we are about the club. We do have some good players at this club, and some great ones coming through. I don't think we are as far away as it seems at the moment, we just have a few key areas in recruitment to address and need to show the door to some poor players as well as great servants to the club who unfortunately no longer cut the mustard to take us to the next level.'"
Good post Andy.
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| Quote ="the artist"it has been said before but if we change the coach we must use the opportunity to let the new man bring in his own staff, and also recruit personnel with no previous ties to the club. the time has surely come to sever the ties to the past. we can move forward with a more talented and experienced set up who carry no FC baggage. it will cost money but as this season has shown, you tend to get what you pay for.
the main problem is that pearson has nobody to show him how to go about this'"
Agree on this. Some will argue that it doesn't fit with the "Club Hull" philosophy that Pearson spoke about but I think that should only apply to the playing staff, not the coaches. The club needs an backroom staff based on their quality not their location.
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| Quote ="Doc Brown"Agree on this. Some will argue that it doesn't fit with the "Club Hull" philosophy that Pearson spoke about but I think that should only apply to the playing staff, not the coaches. The club needs an backroom staff based on their quality not their location.'"
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| Quote ="Diogenes"Quote ="Doc Brown"Agree on this. Some will argue that it doesn't fit with the "Club Hull" philosophy that Pearson spoke about but I think that should only apply to the playing staff, not the coaches. The club needs an backroom staff based on their quality not their location.'"
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| lets be honest, does the "local players" thing even matter, what matters is winning, I don't care if we have nobody born in a Hull & East Riding maternity ward if we're competing for the playoffs. Sentiment has no place in professional sport.
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| Quote ="Standee"lets be honest, does the "local players" thing even matter, what matters is winning, I don't care if we have nobody born in a Hull & East Riding maternity ward if we're competing for the playoffs. Sentiment has no place in professional sport.'"
In general it doesn't and is a nice to have. However, in RL, you need homegrown from a financial (and quota rule thingy?) point of view, so we do need to keep it up
(I do agree in your sentiment)
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| Quote ="hull smallears"In general it doesn't and is a nice to have. However, in RL, you need homegrown from a financial (and quota rule thingy?) point of view, so we do need to keep it up
(I do agree in your sentiment)'"
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| Quote ="hull smallears"In general it doesn't and is a nice to have. However, in RL, you need homegrown from a financial (and quota rule thingy?) point of view, so we do need to keep it up
(I do agree in your sentiment)'"
I agree, in part, but home grown doesn't mean a HU postcode, Aussies are not (or should not be) the answer.
If we had a team of 17 from Aberdeen but won the CC/League and WCC I would happily become an honorary Scot!
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