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| Quote ="Wollagong Way"
Tollerating others opinions will get you far in life....maybe take note on that one
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Nah youre wrong, idiot!!
I agree though with what you said, whatever players we have the coaching set up could and should have got more out of them.
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| Quote ="Wollagong Way"Glad you agree...don't like people who don't agree with what i say!!!
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| For me I will still support Agar while he is in charge of Hull, I still have some hope that with a better squad and a better attitude among the players that he can deliver for next season. My issue is that whilst we have had issues regarding visas and injuries which have effected us we could and should have done better. Agar has not coached the team to its potential this season and has made some fundamental errors when it comes to selection and interchanges, not to mention a lack of motivation within the players.
If the decision was mine to make I would bring in a new coach and new backroom staff at the end of the season but I doubt that will happen so I just hope that Agar learns from his mistakes and makes the most of the squad he has assembled for next season.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"171 and gathering pace. Sadly its only 1% if our last gate which i think the club wouldnt mind not renewing season passes. Needs to be 10 times that number to make any kind of statement.'"
So roughly 1%. What does that say? It says that we have a very vocal minority calling for everyone and his Mothers head.
I've been sick to death this season, you'd be mad not to be, but this sort of hi-jinx, petitions, sit-ins and placards, just make us look like idiots in my mind.
You know, we are supposed to be the best fans in rugby league, feared and respected, and what do we do? Squabble amongst ourselves like bloody schoolchildren.
Get a grip and support the team and the coach. who has had his hands tied by injury all season. Everyone deserves a fair go, and he deserves his shot next season with his men in place.
And we should be living up to our reputation as some of the best fans in the world!
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| Quote ="airliebird58"So roughly 1%. What does that say? It says that we have a very vocal minority calling for everyone and his Mothers head.
I've been sick to death this season, you'd be mad not to be, but this sort of hi-jinx, petitions, sit-ins and placards, just make us look like idiots in my mind.
You know, we are supposed to be the best fans in rugby league, feared and respected, and what do we do? Squabble amongst ourselves like bloody schoolchildren.
Get a grip and support the team and the coach. who has had his hands tied by injury all season. Everyone deserves a fair go, and he deserves his shot next season with his men in place.
And we should be living up to our reputation as some of the best fans in the world!'"
I'd guess the MAJORITY of Hull fans don't use this site.....anything that is arranged on here will only ever have a limited effect, a wider selection of fans would be needed for it to become effective.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"For me I will still support Agar while he is in charge of Hull, I still have some hope that with a better squad and a better attitude among the players that he can deliver for next season. My issue is that whilst we have had issues regarding visas and injuries which have effected us we could and should have done better. Agar has not coached the team to its potential this season and has made some fundamental errors when it comes to selection and interchanges, not to mention a lack of motivation within the players.
If the decision was mine to make I would bring in a new coach and new backroom staff at the end of the season but I doubt that will happen so I just hope that Agar learns from his mistakes and makes the most of the squad he has assembled for next season.'"
Good assessment and that's where i am (or just about), apart from the supporting Agar bit! I'll tollerate him rather than support him i think.
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| Quote ="Wollagong Way"I'd guess the MAJORITY of Hull fans don't use this site.....anything that is arranged on here will only ever have a limited effect, a wider selection of fans would be needed for it to become effective.'"
Thats exactly what it says.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"For me I will still support Agar while he is in charge of Hull,
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Isnt that partly the problem though mate, that as FC fans we blindly follow and settle for mediocrity?
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| Quote ="Wollagong Way"I'd guess the MAJORITY of Hull fans don't use this site.....anything that is arranged on here will only ever have a limited effect, a wider selection of fans would be needed for it to become effective.'"
That is very true, the vast majority do not use this site, but how many times have we seen the vocal minority take over in life? You just have to look at how political correctness has taken a foothold.
Our crowds have pretty much held up this season, where others in our position have seen their crowds plummet, that should say something.
The real test of course will be season pass renewal time. This will be the first year the financial situation could really make a difference.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Isnt that partly the problem though mate, that as FC fans we blindly follow and settle for mediocrity?'"
Not blindly no. I have said I would get rid but if he is our head coach then we need to support him and the players, otherwise we are not doing our jobs properley which is backing the side. Like the song says IAKOW!!
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Not blindly no. I have said I would get rid but if he is our head coach then we need to support him and the players, otherwise we are not doing our jobs properley which is backing the side. Like the song says IAKOW!!'"
Continue rewarding mediocrity and it's all we'll ever get. Agar should be gone NOW, let alone in a few months time.
The whole lot can go, Sharp, Agar, Last and Crooks, get some quality in.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Not blindly no. I have said I would get rid but if he is our head coach then we need to support him and the players, otherwise we are not doing our jobs properley which is backing the side. Like the song says IAKOW!!'"
IAKOW is an easy one to use but again, the board rely on this to be able to settle for mediocrity. I will always support the players on the pitch as i have done all season by going along and watching. I had reservations about Agar which i thought were unfounded early doors but they soon returned and for the remainder of the year i have gone along and blindly supported the team even though they havent deserved it by and large.
Im just getting a bit fed up of everything to do with the club and the way that they approach things and IAKOW is starting to be really testing. In fact, IAKOW as an approach has actually stopped us progressing like we should and encourages settling for average/poor.
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| Quote ="Standee"Continue rewarding mediocrity and it's all we'll ever get. Agar should be gone NOW, let alone in a few months time.
The whole lot can go, Sharp, Agar, Last and Crooks, get some quality in.'"
I agree it should be changed but if it isn't we need to support the coach and players we have, has to be better than bitching and moaning everyweek which gets us nowhere anyway.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I agree it should be changed but if it isn't we need to support the coach and players we have, has to be better than bitching and moaning everyweek which gets us nowhere anyway.'"
Supporting a team where the players dont give a f*ck and the coach is clueless? I work hard monday to friday and then turn up there expecting to be entertained for the money ive spent. (if not entertained i want to see effort)
I go home after the game depressed/angry/annoyed and then that writes off my saturday too. I then go back to work on Monday.
Im pretty sure if i didnt go to the rugby and stayed at home i may have a takeaway and watch a dvd which would be a thoroughly better experience. My saturday and sunday wouldnt then be written off due to the deep depression.
Do you think rule/agar understands how them and our club influence our lives? It feels like all of the effort is going in one direction currently too.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I agree it should be changed but if it isn't we need to support the coach and players we have, has to be better than bitching and moaning everyweek which gets us nowhere anyway.'"
You see, that is just condascending, nobody is bitching and moaning for the sake of it, people are allowed opinions and it's the reason these forums exist, it's just bloody annoying when you can sit and genuinely say "I told you so" about the appointment of both Agar and Sharp.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Supporting a team where the players dont give a f*ck and the coach is clueless? I work hard monday to friday and then turn up there expecting to be entertained for the money ive spent. (if not entertained i want to see effort)
I go home after the game depressed/angry/annoyed and then that writes off my saturday too. I then go back to work on Monday.
Im pretty sure if i didnt go to the rugby and stayed at home i may have a takeaway and watch a dvd which would be a thoroughly better experience. My saturday and sunday wouldnt then be written off due to the deep depression.
Do you think rule/agar understands how them and our club influence our lives? It feels like all of the effort is going in one direction currently too.'"
I know exactly what you mean, I'm enjoying the after match drink with members of my family more than the match nowadays. But we have to keep up our support, at the very least for the people involved with our club who do give f*ck, and we all know there are a quite a few!
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| Quote ="Wollagong Way"Good assessment and that's where i am (or just about), apart from the supporting Agar bit! I'll tollerate him rather than support him i think.'"
Likewise, on both points.
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| Quote ="airliebird58"I know exactly what you mean, I'm enjoying the after match drink with members of my family more than the match nowadays. But we have to keep up our support, at the very least for the people involved with our club who do give f*ck, and we all know there are a quite a few!'"
Thats a fair point actually that i'd not thought about. There must be a lot of people within the club too who do actually give a f*ck. How must they be feeling currently by the people within the club letting it down and effectively meaning they are getting the stick too.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Thats a fair point actually that i'd not thought about. There must be a lot of people within the club too who do actually give a f*ck. How must they be feeling currently by the people within the club letting it down and effectively meaning they are getting the stick too.'"
Are there though, who is left at the club with a genuine connection to the side?
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| Quote ="Standee"Are there though, who is left at the club with a genuine connection to the side?'"
Im talking more about the admin staff etc i guess more than the senior people. There are a lot of people lower down in the ranks that are B&W through and through that must feel like crap too.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"IAKOW is an easy one to use but again, the board rely on this to be able to settle for mediocrity. I will always support the players on the pitch as i have done all season by going along and watching. I had reservations about Agar which i thought were unfounded early doors but they soon returned and for the remainder of the year i have gone along and blindly supported the team even though they havent deserved it by and large.
Im just getting a bit fed up of everything to do with the club and the way that they approach things and IAKOW is starting to be really testing. In fact, IAKOW as an approach has actually stopped us progressing like we should and encourages settling for average/poor.'"
We support our team through thick and thin, thats the message we send out as Hull FC fans and always have. It does not mean we cannot complain about things and have our say, even though a sit in sounds a bit pathetic it worked for Wire fans, they got shut of Cullen and ultimately got a world class coach.
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| Quote ="Standee"You see, that is just condascending, nobody is bitching and moaning for the sake of it, people are allowed opinions and it's the reason these forums exist, it's just bloody annoying when you can sit and genuinely say "I told you so" about the appointment of both Agar and Sharp.'"
No it's not.
People have whinged and moaned on here all season and where has it got us? If we want to make an impact then it need to be done in a better way than compaining on here.
We all have our say on here, most opinions agree but with diffferent degrees of severity. All I am saying is as supporters we have to endure good times and bad however it's all under our control. Recently I had the chance to see the Leeds home game and Cas away game as my life did not interfere with the games. Even though my wife went to the Hull/Leeds game at the KC I decided not to as it was on tv and I did not want to waste my money. I also decided not to bother going to Cas even though it's like a home game to me, once again because I felt like it would be a waste of money. Those are my choices and we all have the ability to make those decisions.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"No it's not.
People have whinged and moaned on here all season and where has it got us? If we want to make an impact then it need to be done in a better way than compaining on here.
We all have our say on here, most opinions agree but with diffferent degrees of severity. All I am saying is as supporters we have to endure good times and bad however it's all under our control. Recently I had the chance to see the Leeds home game and Cas away game as my life did not interfere with the games. Even though my wife went to the Hull/Leeds game at the KC I decided not to as it was on tv and I did not want to waste my money. I also decided not to bother going to Cas even though it's like a home game to me, once again because I felt like it would be a waste of money. Those are my choices and we all have the ability to make those decisions.'"
Or your as tight as a submarine door
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| Quote ="PAUL M"No it's not.
People have whinged and moaned on here all season and where has it got us? If we want to make an impact then it need to be done in a better way than compaining on here.'"
Equally all of the people saying "give Agar chance" have got us nowhere.
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