I said at the point of, we had 2 strong 6th place finishes and with play-off wins and without the extra investment bearing fruit in the academy, with a new coach and without a stable 6/7 partnership, that to me says we were on the verge, I never said anything about actually being in the 4 did I?
Your viewpoint that 6th isn't close 4th is just silly, just a stable/fit set of halves would have pushed us very close to 4th, that's something Radford has had this year and it's got us to 8th from 11th, why couldn't that be applied to 6th to 4th???

It's impossible to say how we would have done last year never mind this if we had continued with Gentle (or anyone other coach than LR) but given a set of halves and 2 more years of the investments/developments in the youth system it's not unthinkable that we could have been pushing closer to 4th than scraping the 8.

Only 2 of the 5 confirmed so it's irrelevant really. Pearson can spend as much as he wants on players but till he invests in a quality coaching team it's money down the drain

Pritchard and Taylor are powerful work horses yes albeit good ones and have we signed the others yet or do you live in cloud cuckoo land and believe all these rumours.
You do really need to give your head a bang at times and come back down to reality.

So the successful Bradford team were "workhorses". Lol. Think vainikolo, Hape, Paul, Deacon, et al may beg to differ.

This is the slowest back line I have ever seen at the club.

you say Radford trying to sign workhorses and these are the ones who we are supposed to be after,maybe you should read before you jump on your high horse,

Think you are missing the point and I'm not wanting to derail the thread either.
Paul and deacon aside as we have currently nothing anywhere near that quality. Bradford had a formidable pack and big powerful backs.
See that blueprint being repeated or attempted here?
Due to the coaches lack of ability or knowledge.

I never described them as plodders or bad players but work horses to me are big ,strong and powerful which these fit the bill of not saying there not skillful.

Maybe you should try to understand beforet you fly off on one as always and attack anything and everything you perceive as anti hull as you've become boring and predictable and apart from the nothing comments you make or childish insults you never normally bring anything constructive or interesting to a discussion.
Just my opinion mind.

Double post

Outplayed and outcoached, Wigan throw the ball wide and offloaded at will, each tackle they slowed the play down with 3 men in the tackle and we continued to use two men and let them play the ball fast, couldn't the players see that Thaler was soft around the play of the ball, but we are thick to react.

Any team that has Thomspon and Green at props at the same time deserves to lose, when will he realise to spell his props better.

Harsh reality we deserve to be were we are.

Season pretty much over

You have successfully contradicted your first point regarding "workhorses". Formidable and powerful pack and big powerful backs does not equate to any workhorse analogy. I completely agree that he is looking at the Bradford model, however they also had pace in the backs and craft in the halves, a hooker who was effective in the opposition 25 and internationals throughout the team - not workhorses.
Wonder if he will go the whole hog and insist the fans each wear a sponge finger and learn to play the trumpet. before we know it the half time entertainment involves a guy in a monkey suit riding a quad bike, whilst doing juggling tricks to the tune of wooly bully?

I fear the worst....

bombed out as a wise man told me, never argue with a fool you will never win,so I will leave it there and let you ramble on,

defo needs to spell his props better dave, also just didn't seem at the races tonight apart from a 10 min spell in the second half,

Rubbish. You're exaggerating how good we were under Gentle in order to justify your constant ranting about Pearson and Radford. If you were any more transparent we'd have to start calling you Pilkington.

Sorry but Knockers point is not rubbish.
Because you don't agree with someones post you cant just say its rubbish.
You have ranted a lot recently about Radford, and until he gets us anywhere near the League finishes that Gentle achieved,plus a Wembley appearance then based on What Radford has shown us as a coach he will always be justifiably criticised.

Massive physical mismatch at the heart of yesterday's game - across the field but particularly in the backs. It was obvious from the stands the moment the teams started warming up. That's the most depressing thing for me - although we have Ellis and Feka out and Pryce is a big player we're miles off matching a full strength Wigan side for presence. Miles off.

Too many players going through the motions and not putting a shift in last night. It's an attitude thing. We've achieved our season long ambition and we can put the cue on the rack now. The club has been in decline since 2007 and the only constants in that time have been radford, horne, last, whiting and yeaman, 3 of which are the coaches. The club desperately needs an influx of new ideas and a fresh approach to things. Doing or evolving what we've had since 2007 will only get us more of the mediocrity we're all sick to the back teeth of. The only time a club should appoint from within is when it's from a stable and successful background. Obviously it's not going to happen as pearson is steadfastly sticking to his guns but unless we have a clear out then all we'll get is more of the same.

I really get a sense that the bulk of fans have had enough and those who are still going are doing so out of a sense of loyalty or habit. I see numbers continuing to dwindle and expect pass sales to be down significantly next season. Certainly most of those I sit near in the east stand seem pretty disillusioned.

Hmm. Dare I refer back to the ' "Pressure Off" Attitude ' thread?

It' rubbish because, well, it's rubbish. At no point during Gentle's tenure were we on the verge of breaking into the top 4, and anyone who genuinely thinks otherwise is probably smoking something illegal.

The club may well have gone backwards since Gentle got the push but nowhere near as far as Bumpy and others like to make out. We'd been on the slide for years before AP even bought the club.

My god you really do take yourself that seriously don't you? Lol.

Yeah, the club's in the ter. lol.

Our last result was a foregone conclusion after you tipped us to win, to be fair.

I said should win, not would win

Get off the fooking fence Jake.
Your ringpiece will be splintered to buggery.

Make your mind up, you were trying to make hay out of me saying we'd lose all 3 of the final games last week now I was tipping us against wigan? I'm not your feckin bookie

Calm down, calm down!