No people don't "miss guide" there energy, nobody classes any game as an easy game. We more then anybody have had our fair share of banana skins these past few seasons.

But in those games we lost we could have won despite being very very poor on the day, which just shows you if the coach had employed better tactics we'd be in a much better off position.

If you don't think its a concern how one week we play with such confidence and heart (Rovers Home) and then the next week turn up with the attitude of "we are already beat" (Wigan Home) well then they is no hope.

BUT YOU CLEARLY DO!!!
every team has banana skinned at some point (wire at dragons to name a recent one) or other thats the whole point i am making here, there is no such thing as a crap team as it was described in earlier post !!
anything can happen in any match and does week in week out!!

RA has us sat in 4th ffs , live with it and enjoy it

Thats ok then, I'm happy with not being first because we are 4th.



Get a grip.

Surely you never expected to go from 11th to 1st in one season

Hell no, but I think some people are being easily pleased.

The point I am getting accross is that whilst we are 4th and are improved on previous seasons, that we should be more ambitious and not just accept where we are. We would be higher if we beat teams that are below us, being one of the only few teams to lose to Wakefield over the past couple of months is clearly an embarrassment in my eyes.

I AM happy we have improved on last term but I don't think it should stop there.

I bloody hope it does not stop....I will reflect after the play-off's, but I would like to see even more improvement next season, consistency being the key for me....And I am confident we can do that, I personally believe Wigan will be even stronger next year (3 more Aussies

), but I would like to target top 3, with a good c/cup run.

who said it will or are we now starting a fortune telling thread as well

Wigan will again be the team to beat next year by a long way, i think it is an era dawning of Wigan dominance again i think, adding that fire power to an already outstanding side will only mean more upset when we play them.... but like i said anything can happen

I give up with you, your a lost cause.

Maybe if you concerntrated on training and stopped posting on here, we wouldn't have such bad performances each week.

Yeah 3 quality signings and they will be tougher to beat next year. Maybe the next few years, but the turn around from Leeds dominating to this season has been pretty much instant and could happen just the same again IMO

if in doubt stick with being a negmaster

absolutely correct, and thats why we love this game because no one team dominates every year , look at bradford and where they are now!!
The truth is we have just begun to claw our way out of our darkest hours recently and are on the up again, a couple more seasons, some decent beef on the menu and we are back in the business of winning trophies again...
you know we may knock them but Warrington deserve sucess because slowly slowly catch the monkey they have invested well and are now reaping some rewards and we are in a similar position , we have been through one coach after another and have now settled on what i can only describe as a well balanced set up that will in turn pay dividends, and may I add that the recent coaching additions and plans are showing fruit already!!

I would have thought that Leeds winning the last 3 Grand Finals is some sort of domination (and anyone who thinks they can't make it 4 is serioulsy deluded).

To be fair id take 4th this season as a good improvement, Then try build on it next year.

I see were Pmarrow is coming from though.

and they were good for it over those , however who won it 4 years ago and who will win in this term??
My point exactly a champion side is usually as the history books show dominant for a 2 / 3 year period then the power shifts as was the case with bradford , leeds, saints etc
wigans dominance some years back was due to powerful spending way beyond their means that nearly ended wigan rugby league club and many others to boot .

we are as we stand one of the big 6 in SL and a scalp everyone wants to get, shortly we will have our time again !!

i can see his point also but that does not mean we are clueless by a long way, the club already have plans afoot for when our current contracts expire next year and we will become a force to recon with again.. as we are already to be fair, just not consistent enough

I haven't said we are clueless but we have performed very poor some weeks and very good other weeks.

It has to be a concern that some weeks we get up for games and then the next week we can be utter e. Thats not negativity, its how it is.

negative to most i am afraid

Worst case is we've got 4 games left before next February. Let's enjoy it and hope the team treat each one like a cup final. It's a long winter.

well said

Absolutley rubbish.

that proves my point

The only point it proves is where Hull FC are concerned, we could have lost every game so far and you'd be still saying Agar is a great coach and respected by the players

which is certainly not what i would be doing!! but i guess it backs your argument

another poster not bowing down to your superior knowledge ? dreary me