Striking difference. Celebrating knock-ons by the other side like a cup win. Great to see.

Agree, Houghton is the most overrated player in SL. His distribution is quite frankly appalling.

You could also look at the togetherness of hull kr.

Saw enough of that last night thank you Des!

Hurry des or you'll miss the parade

:after the catalan game,i posted "i traveled home a happy chappy",but today after that rubbish last night,i traveled home a sad chap.

but never the less,i shall be there for the widness game.

If we the supporters new what was going to happen next and we did last night think how easy it is for the opposition.
That's just bad coaching be better of saying just do your own dam thing.

Agree about Houghton , We have our own Malcom Alker , He can rack up the tackles but can do f**k all else . Why does he not read the play. Again last night he went blind side with only one man to pass to , Yet there was 5 rovers defenders in front of him .

Have to agree. Makes 1000 tackles a season but offers little in offence.

I don't see much leadership from him either.

Absolutely Pathetic!

I've followed Hull for forty years and couldn't believe what I was seeing last night.

Passing: Very poor. At school we were taught to pass at waist height just in front of the person so they could run on to the ball. Last night we were passing the ball at head height, or passing behind the man, (or at the man) that they had to remian static.

5th Tackle: I'd love to see the Hull FC/Doncaster Play Book for fifth tackles? Our first set last night, in the Rovers 20m, we failed to attempt any last tackle move. Later on in the game, again in the Rovers 20m - there was a delay due to an injury, on teh restart (last tackle) we drove it in for a handover to Rovers. Who is calling the shots. In my school rugby (union) team, we had over 40 plays, every player knew every move, where they had to be etc. In a match, our stand off (or captain) would call the move. If they went off, or were in the ruck, someone else would call the next move. It was drilled into us. That is when I was a 14 year old school boy who tarined 2.5 hours a week.

Kicking: Actually better than recent years last night. We actually made the ball bounce as opposed to sending it straight to the full back or winger. However, other than targeting their suspect winger twice, their was no real pressure exerted.

Line Breaks: If there was one, I missed it.

Attack: I'm normally the most optimistic of fans, however mid way through the 2nd half last night, I made the comment that even if we had the whole of the Doncaster side on our side, we still wouldn't score.

We have a squad on the maximum salary cap. They play in summer, on excellent pitches, with a modern, grippable ball (not like the old soap bars we had at school). They are full time professionals and probbly train 10-20 hours per week. This is not good enough. However, the buck stops completely with the Coach.

He'll site the quick turnaround, but Rovers also palyed last Friday. I know the game is faster these days (now played by full time professionals, but I remember Hull playing Good Friday, Easter Saturday and Easter Monday in the early 80's (seem to remember Steve Evans scored two hat tricks in two days - without to many aches and pains)

Radford will also site injuries, well as has been mentioned previously, these are part and parcel of the game.

Unfortunately, what he won't site is that he is clueless. Lee Radford was a good player, but as a Coach has become an embarrassment!

Time to go Lee. Now!

Don't think it's been mentioned (and can't be @rsed to read thread) but big raps to hull fans in the East stand on Thursday for their chants regarding young Rovers fan Connor Lynes. Shows even in the heat of a derby battle that the rugby league family can come together.

I know i am adding more of the same as already written, I feel just as damaged by all of this as you all do i know
I came over to watch an Easter of Football hoping that i would see some passion, guts, maybe even the will to want to crack a few heads in the derby game, oh my how wrong was I ???
I can honestly say in all the years I have followed the club that was up there with the worst, i am not taking anything away from HKR because they looked a well oiled machine and did everything well and deserved the win ...

Something made me really sad during the game and it was this, we were sat behind a family who had a fellow over from Holland who had never seen an RL game who thought it was awesome to watch , however he said something at half time to the chap i got talking to he said "wow what a match , these guys in red are so on the money, are they top of the league?"
That to me said it all, we made HKR look like league leaders they were were so much better than we are..

i have only watched a hand full of games this season and can only say it as i see it and here is how i see it

Jamie Shaul: Looked tired and not at the races for me, where was his usual support play??

Tom Lineham: did all he could but had nothing to work with

Steve Michaels: dont get the hype, he looks lightweight, one dimensional

Jack Logan: tons of effort but not ever going to be anything other than run of the mill, why did we let Crooks go again??

Fetuli Talanoa: he will be having nightmares now about the amount of high ball he is going to get for the rest of this season , he will get bombed to pieces every match now

Leon Pryce: did enough but nothing special sadly

Jordan Rankin: never a half as long as my balls hang south

Mickey Paea: worked hard but 99 times out of a hundred is stood still when he gets the ball

Danny Houghton: have we seen the best of him come and go already??

Liam Watts: Donkey, simple as

Dean Hadley: same as watts just so ordinary

Mark Minichiello: thank god we had one man on the pitch with passion

Joe Westerman: like Houghton have we seen the best of him already

Josh Bowden: watts again , a big lump nothing else

Iafeta Paleaaesina: why when we have a wrecking ball like Feka dont we start him from twenty yards back , instead we pass him the ball when he is pricking around with his socks FFS, why does he always slow down before impact too ??

Jordan Thompson: his quietest game so far

James Cunningham: pointless bench spot

Lee Radford : sorry Lee, you are so very inexperienced and it shows truly awfully mate.. this has walsh written all over it mate
You kiss the asses of the senior players and bully the juniors... big man , tough man but poor coach im afraid.. if you are black and white like you say then step down and give our chairman the chance to avoid his sword and get a new coach before its too late, if you stay we are doomed .

The rovers fans were right , you should be fired on Monday, if we loose badly at Saints i still believe you may!!
I would never advocate sacking anyone but in pro sport you are results based and your results are shocking at best

i know where very bad atm, but have you ANYTHING positive to comment on at all

The Hot dog at half time was lovely

To be fair what is there to be positive about, I cant see anything right now at all sorry, not here to argue with you just saying it as i see it

no you are entitled to your opinion its a forum, just all your posts are negative , mind you fair play about the hot dogs

sorry mate, i came into this season with real hope we had built something to make a difference in the off season, but i have to say we look about as poor as i have ever seen ... and thats a lot
i know I feel gloomy completely sorry mate, i know we all do
sorry all

no problem mate, maybe am getting a bit touchy because we so crap lol, anyway who knows we might turn the corner soon, on the other hand

The only turn of a corner going to happen right now is if were planning to build a new stadium down Pulman street

Prolific, isn't it?

Our "supporters" have certainly excelled themselves over the last few days, criticising anything and everything to do with the club. Not a stone has been left unturned, finding new and novel ways of sticking the boot in. The usual crowd have repeated over and over again the same anti hull fc rhetoric, and new posters have popped up to fuel the debate. Sad, really, isn't it? So much for loyalty. I'm sure AP et al are trying their very best to send the club into oblivion, just what some on here seem to want.

Precisely.

No the facts are many of us probably like yourself have been with the club through thick and thin and WILL continue to do so as i have for 50 years or so however it still does not alter the fact that the club is a mess, success is measured by success on the field and for quite some time now it has been bad to put it mildly, whilst i and approx another 16000 still keep supporting the club and hoping for changes and just some measure of hope it does not change the fact that we are a mess, void of ideas or hope and looking about as bad as I have seen,

Contrary to your claim i will forever support my beloved club and travel three hours on a plane and then three plus hours by car from Stanstead once sometimes twice a month to watch them, so my love of the club I am happy to say is lifelong, unquestionable and frikkin expensive to boot however as much as i share your hopes and dreams of what is to come right now I can only see more of the same

If I am proved wrong I am old enough and ugly enough to concede and apologise however I assume you did hear 10,000 of the 20,000 singing a song of affection towards Mr Radford at the derby , whom may I add I bear no malice but just want him to see he is in over his head...

We can bang the black and white drum all we want and defend the indefensible over and over but my calculus and eyes don't lie to me or the other thousands whom have suffered recently .. as i said once before on here if I had paid for a season pass I would definitely not do so again in the near future

Sorry if i offend you I dont mean to or want to fall out with fellow FC fans in any way and concede if you are more savvy than I am however I saw the same as you did in the derby,
THAT WASNT A DEFEAT THAT WAS A DEMOLITION , not only by points scored but mentally too

It's got nothing to do with loyalty. People just don't want to see us languishing at the foot of the table. No one has a God given right to win but given the resources available to us it's frustrating to see us playing so abjectly. I was reading the Wakefield forum earlier. Their fans are also very upset, but I think there is also a realisation that they have punched above their weight for years, and they are now in a position that reflects what they have available to them. We are the opposite, we have money, fans, facilities, a good academy, yet our on field performances are poor at best.

Personally I think there are a lot of things to be happy about at the club, and whilst I don't always agree with the way Adam does his business he has done more good than bad.

I just think we need a whole new philosophy on the playing side of things and it's obvious to me that Radford isn't the man to do it, regardless of how hard work he is working, or how badly players are letting him down.

No one apart from KR fans want to see the club die on here, not at all
but facts are facts... backing them, singing away, banging drums and playing as many flutes as you want with naked dancing girls on the crossbar isnt going to make this better in the near future
we can put Radford spin on it all we want and wallpaper the club with pretty laura ashley paper all you want but the team is clueless, leaderless and since Huddersfield have looked pointless too

The issue here is not the playing staff but the leader in charge, he isnt experienced enough simple as that .... however he is cheap