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| Get out of the way would be my advice.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Watch the video, he only did it once and not 4 points, getting bored of saying it now.'"
You can say it till you're blue in the face - watch the Sky RL highlights - Hulls own only shows one of the pens for some reason.
Hull did it twice, Wakey did it once, Saints did it vs Leeds - it's boring and needs cutting out.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"You can say it till you're blue in the face - watch the Sky RL highlights - Hulls own only shows one of the pens for some reason.
Hull did it twice, Wakey did it once, Saints did it vs Leeds - it's boring and needs cutting out.'"
You need your eye testing, firstly the Hull highlights show exactly the same thing as the Sky Sports website
1st Penalty, Houghton does not throw the ball at anyone, he knocks on as the player is in his way.
2nd Penalty, Clear high shot.
3rd Penalty, player is in the way, Houghton throws the ball at the player.
So only once does Houghton throw the ball at the player, the first penalty, is one that you see every week for the last few seasons, player made no attempt to move away from the ball.
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| Quote ="Dave K."You need your eye testing, firstly the Hull highlights show exactly the same thing as the Sky Sports website'"
Glad you confirmed that because I was thinking the same.
And the Huby incident he keeps mentioning - I haven't spotted that one either in the highlights.
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| Quote ="Dave K."You need your eye testing, firstly the Hull highlights show exactly the same thing as the Sky Sports website
1st Penalty, Houghton does not throw the ball at anyone, he knocks on as the player is in his way.
2nd Penalty, Clear high shot.
3rd Penalty, player is in the way, Houghton throws the ball at the player.
So only once does Houghton throw the ball at the player, the first penalty, is one that you see every week for the last few seasons, player made no attempt to move away from the ball.'"
Will just have to agree to disagree, 1st & 3rd are milked - agree 2nd pen is a clear high shot.
If we don't clamp down on it, then we are just opening the door for players tackling round the legs to have ball thrown at them as they can't get away as fast as dummy half can pick up ball and launch it at them.
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"Will just have to agree to disagree, 1st & 3rd are milked - agree 2nd pen is a clear high shot.
If we don't clamp down on it, then we are just opening the door for players tackling round the legs to have ball thrown at them as they can't get away as fast as dummy half can pick up ball and launch it at them.'"
So its milking that you are not happy about, then you will be complaining every week, it has been happening for years, and every clubs does it.
The throwing the deliberately at a player is different and I agree it needs looking at, as it happened TWICE yesterday, one for each team.
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| Quote ="Dave K."icon_lol.gif So its milking that you are not happy about, then you will be complaining every week, it has been happening for years, and every clubs does it.
The throwing the deliberately at a player is different and I agree it needs looking at, as it happened TWICE yesterday, one for each team.'"
Yes! Thats the whole point of what I'm saying! Milking a penalty off a player who is technically but not deliberately offside because he cant get away before the PTB.
What did you think I was irritated about?
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"Yes! Thats the whole point of what I'm saying! Milking a penalty off a player who is technically but not deliberately offside because he cant get away before the PTB.
What did you think I was irritated about?
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Wasting your time, as it has been happening for years, players from every clubs do it, not sure why it has been brought up now, bet at least 8 of the penalties at the weekend were milked by players, Tom Briscoe was a master at it.
And looking at the video, I am not sure what else Houghton could have done for the first one, as he couldn't even pick up the ball as Arona (I think, no 16) made no attempt to clear the ruck, clear penalty.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Wasting your time, as it has been happening for years, players from every clubs do it, not sure why it has been brought up now, bet at least 8 of the penalties at the weekend were milked by players, Tom Briscoe was a master at it.
And looking at the video, I am not sure what else Houghton could have done for the first one, as he couldn't even pick up the ball as Arona (I think, no 16) made no attempt to clear the ruck, clear penalty.'"
If Arona moves he would have either go toward Houghton and possibly trip him, or he rolls into the ball. As it was he laid there doing his best not to interfere - not a penalty for me.
I know players dive and hold on to players tackling them to make it look like they're being held down but the passing into a player is just more blatant and looks stupid.
Anyway, i'm tired of talking about it now but enjoyed the game as a whole - not much free flowing rugby but the armwrestle and forward battle between 2 packs giving 100% was good entertainment!
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| Quote ="TrinityIHC"If Arona moves he would have either go toward Houghton and possibly trip him, or he rolls into the ball. As it was he laid there doing his best not to interfere - not a penalty for me.
I know players dive and hold on to players tackling them to make it look like they're being held down but the passing into a player is just more blatant and looks stupid.
Anyway, i'm tired of talking about it now but enjoyed the game as a whole - not much free flowing rugby but the armwrestle and forward battle between 2 packs giving 100% was good entertainment!'"
Agree with the last paragraph, let's just move on.
I like what Chester and Carter are trying to do at Wakey and hope it works on for you.
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| Surely the real issue here is the defender not allowing the attacking team to take advantage of a quick Ptb? If the defender can't get out of the way in time and impede the attacker then it's a penalty whethere it's deliberate interference or not. If we started allowing it or penalising the attacking side we'd have Wigan players rolling around the Ptb area after every tackle
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| Quote ="Dave K."Agree with the last paragraph, let's just move on.
I like what Chester and Carter are trying to do at Wakey and hope it works on for you.'"
And you fella, a lot of time for Hull - stood with your lot at magic last year and had a right laugh.
Edit: Absolute last word on it but a certain Gareth Ellis has just said on Super League Show that he agrees that houghtons pass into Huby was understandable in circumstances but not something he wants to see and hopes its clamped down on.
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| Nobody has argued that, just some your fans have made out that it was only us doing it and it cost you the game, both statements are rubbish.
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| I'm sorry, but it was a penalty all day long. He was obstructing the mark, not just in the ruck. He made no effort to move. Houghton literally couldn't pass to the left without going around him (which he shouldn't have to) and couldn't scoot.
Had he laid down and rolled at, he wouldn't have obstructed. You can't just kneel upright on the mark and expect not to get penalised.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"I'm sorry, but it was a penalty all day long. He was obstructing the mark, not just in the ruck. He made no effort to move. Houghton literally couldn't pass to the left without going around him (which he shouldn't have to) and couldn't scoot.
Had he laid down and rolled at, he wouldn't have obstructed. You can't just kneel upright on the mark and expect not to get penalised.'"
That's now how Hull FC captain and 30+ England capped legend Gareth Ellis saw it...
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| now THAT was a joke
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| Quote ="the cal train"now THAT was a joke'"
That Josh Jones one tonight was far worse than any last week.
He actually threw it forward to hit Brough.
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| Disgraceful , how the refs and video ref dont penalise that is unbelievable, things like this are the reason I hate watching football so much now, stamp it out now, simple
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| The one tonight was terrible and he should have been penalised for a forward pass.
There's no room for these tactics in our game when it's blatantly milking for a penalty. It needs stamping out right now.
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| Should just treat it as a knock on when they've thrown it into the man moving away.
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| Quote ="davey37"That Josh Jones one tonight was far worse than any last week.
He actually threw it forward to hit Brough.'"
It should of been awarded as a knock on. Surely can only be a forward pass if his own player catches it. Really hope they clamp down on this. It's like our version of a footballer going down in the box just because there's contact.
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Per the article, if Jones of Salford passed the ball forward into Brough, why wasn't the first offence of a forward pass pinged??
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Per the article, if Jones of Salford passed the ball forward into Brough, why wasn't the first offence of a forward pass pinged??
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Per the article, if Jones of Salford passed the ball forward into Brough, why wasn't the first offence of a forward pass pinged??'"
Exactly.
Very poor decision by Child that one.
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| I haven't seen it, but it should always be based on which offence happened first.
I would have thought Brough was interfering with play before the forward pass.
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