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| I'm all for reducing ticket prices to encourage away supporters but subsidised coaches? WTF What about subsiding coaches for our own supporters to the odd away game as a gesture of goodwill?
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"Possibly because they realise they have their ticketing strategy wrong at Hull. They are one of the most expensive grounds for AWAY fans to visit. I think only Leeds are more expensive for seats.
I agree with PhilB there should be a better ticketing strategy across RL particularly at televised games. If you want to sell the sport as being exciting and TGG and the stadium is half empty it looks bad.'"
Compare it with hull kr and saints charging 22quid to stand i think it is good value
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I'm all for reducing ticket prices to encourage away supporters but subsidised coaches? WTF What about subsiding coaches for our own supporters to the odd away game as a gesture of goodwill?'"
agree, unless we'd created a reciprocal deal with a partner club then it appears that AP knows we'll continue to travel and he doesn't get anything out of it, so sod us, and guse money for away fans.
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| Quote ="Standee"agree, unless we'd created a reciprocal deal with a partner club then it appears that AP knows we'll continue to travel and he doesn't get anything out of it, so sod us, and guse money for away fans.'"
I hardly think he's thinking sod us tbf . He's a buisness man trying to make extra money for the club .... The shock ay
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I'm all for reducing ticket prices to encourage away supporters but subsidised coaches? WTF What about subsiding coaches for our own supporters to the odd away game as a gesture of goodwill?'"
If the travel was tied in with buying the away ticket from Hull there might be extra income to offset the cost as well.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"If the travel was tied in with buying the away ticket from Hull there might be extra income to offset the cost as well.'"
I'm sure it would be but with the SMC deal and the fact we make nothing from food and drink sales i can't see it being a money spinner plus I think it is a bit of a slap in the face for our long suffering fans that we'll subsidise opposition fans to come here but not do anything for our travelling support. When you take into account cost of buses they'll have to significantly increase the number of away fans to make it more financially lucrative than doing nothing
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I'm sure it would be but with the SMC deal and the fact we make nothing from food and drink sales i can't see it being a money spinner plus I think it is a bit of a slap in the face for our long suffering fans that we'll subsidise opposition fans to come here but not do anything for our travelling support. When you take into account cost of buses they'll have to significantly increase the number of away fans to make it more financially lucrative than doing nothing'"
sorry I was agreeing with you re the club putting buses in for our fans going to away games. Insist that anyone on the subsidised coaches buy a ticket from the club as part of the deal and you have some money coming back in to the club to pay for it.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"sorry I was agreeing with you re the club putting buses in for our fans going to away games. Insist that anyone on the subsidised coaches buy a ticket from the club as part of the deal and you have some money coming back in to the club to pay for it.'"
Sorry, misunderstood (not used to you agreeing with me ). It would be great if they did it once a season to try and encourage a large amount of fans - problem is we generally have large amounts at most away grounds anyway. Worked well for the likes of wire in the past. Ticket and transport for £30 or something
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Sorry, misunderstood (not used to you agreeing with me
). It would be great if they did it once a season to try and encourage a large amount of fans - problem is we generally have large amounts at most away grounds anyway. Worked well for the likes of wire in the past. Ticket and transport for £30 or something'"
Sounds like a good idea, espescially during the long run of away games this season (Leeds or Widnes away, say). Those who regularly travel away can save money and others could be encouraged to go.
Anyway, the club should still be applauded for the plans outlined today.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I'm sure it would be but with the SMC deal and the fact we make nothing from food and drink sales i can't see it being a money spinner plus I think it is a bit of a slap in the face for our long suffering fans that we'll subsidise opposition fans to come here but not do anything for our travelling support. When you take into account cost of buses they'll have to significantly increase the number of away fans to make it more financially lucrative than doing nothing'"
I know this is probably old ground Jake and my memory's not the best but I thought we got a % of money from food and drink at the kc . How do you know we don't get any money mate ?
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| Mr Allam was quoted in the HDM, saying.... Quote (The SMC) subsidises the catering and beer sales at each match, making a loss of £70,000 last season.'" so I doubt we get much, if anything.
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| Quote ="ccs"Mr Allam was quoted in the HDM, saying....so I doubt we get much, if anything.'"
That if you choose to believe the good doctor I suppose . The smc made profit in the years previous to his tenure
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"The clubs should get together and agree Away ticket prices should be the same across the board
£20 quid max'"
How much to watch Mason train?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I'm all for reducing ticket prices to encourage away supporters but subsidised coaches? WTF What about subsiding coaches for our own supporters to the odd away game as a gesture of goodwill?'"
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| Quote ="ccs"Mr Allam was quoted in the HDM, saying....so I doubt we get much, if anything.'"
We get a payment at the same level as we did from the bars the the last year of the Boulevard (6900 average)
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"I know this is probably old ground Jake and my memory's not the best but I thought we got a % of money from food and drink at the kc . How do you know we don't get any money mate ?'"
You may be right but if we do it won't be much
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"We get a payment at the same level as we did from the bars the last year of the Boulevard (6900 average)'" I've not heard that one before.
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| Quote ="ccs"I've not heard that one before.'"
In the orginal agreement of us moving from Boulevard (our former home for those new fans)
Basically guaranted income, like the 7500 ticket thing
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"In the orginal agreement of us moving from Boulevard (our former home for those new fans)
Basically guaranted income, like the 7500 ticket thing'" Yes it rings a bell now - income from the bars would be lost as the catering was to be run by the SMC, so we were allocated a sum based on the boulevard takings.
Seems reasonable as you would expect the centralised SMC catering to make a good profit.
In the HDM article, Mr Allam was also winging about the SMC having to buy a number of Premier Club season passes each season, but he fails to mention that we pay back the SMC 50% of the gate money above 7500, which in an average season pays it all back.
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| Geography doesn't help, the further a club for the traveller the more it hits numbers.
It would be great if the club's could come together and fix a price for away fans say £18 for standing £20 for seating even if that is cheaper than for home fans it's still fair as that price is set if anyone travels, it's almost a discount for making the effort. Obviously though the tickets for away matches would have to be purchased at your own club and bought before match day.
You could even create an away day season ticket from your own club which includes coach travel, ticket and a voucher for one drink, if all the club's actually went to an RFL meeting and came together for the greater good that would make a welcome change.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"The clubs should get together and agree Away ticket prices should be the same across the board
£20 quid max'"
This.
I know Newcastle United have reciprical agreements with several other premier league clubs which caps the away fans tickets prices.
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| While I welcome the move to get more fans in the ground (be it home or away fans) I think the club are up against a lot of different negative factors on this one.
Firstly we are geographically out on a limb, and while the stretch of Motorway/A-Road from Cas to Hull is one of the quietest in the country, that 40 minute gap puts many from West Yorkshire & Lancashire off.
secondly we choose to play Friday nights, while I personally agree with this, as it is better for the corporate support (more income) and means less re-scheduled games for SKY...it isn't as good as Sunday afternoons for away fans.
thirdly there have been some unfortunate incidents in recent years of coaches getting windows smashed on the way out of Hull..and while this may have had nothing to do with HullFC, our fans or the KC Stadium, if you're memory of a city was off smashed glass landing in your lap on your way home, you wouldn't rush back.
so yeah, I support this move, but I don't think it will be a quick job. Also the quickest way to get away (and home) gates up is to play well consistently, the fans turn out for important matches, Warrington the other year for example brought thousands as they would lift the League Leaders Shield if they won, and more away fans would come if their game against Hull was a battle for a top4 spot, rather than a 'dead rubber' mid-table game.
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| As a Warrington fan I had a conversation with Clarke about this last February. Until you bring north stand prices back in line with the south stand people will perceive the club as unwelcoming.
Personally it is one of my favourite days of the year buts can understand why many feel aggrieved. Hope you all have a safe trip over here today.
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| Quote ="Chris28"Well 1000 at £18 is better than 750 at £20 so this looks a good plan. Plus there's potential for food and drink sales.
If it works the argument would be to reduce for home fans too to try and fill the empty spaces.
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If you know we're to look or who to ask, you can get discounted tickets
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"How much to watch Mason train?'"
And that adds to a decent thread how?
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