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| Quote ="Southey"We should sign Phelps and use Tansey and Nicklas as cover for the halves. Injuries will happen and due to Berrigans injury last season Houghton took his chance. Calderwood and Whiting got injured and Lynn took his chance so injuries will give Nicklas a chance. Longys elbow injury could have happened to anyone and cant be put down to his age. I would like Sammut as he would improve the squad but if we dont sign another half back then I wont be full of doom and gloom. We managed last year when Berrigan missed lots of games and where one game from finishing fourth. I also think with Westerman being a ball playing loose man we have options.'"
I think we have better options too this year. Whiting can play fullback meaning we have Tansey to use in the pivotal positions plus Westerman can play 6 and has doen for Cas in the past plus Nicklas is a year older. I think we still need a couple of bodies to pad the squad out and if we can't get halfback cover I would like to see some back/hooking cover.
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| Quote ="monkeyshoes"i'm still hopeful of Jarrod Sammut. I'd be be happy if we signed him for 2 or 3 yrs and i think he'd be a great little ace in the hole
failing that i'd be happy with Sam Obst - he's better than no cover at all and i'd much rather see him interchange with Houghton than Washbrook any day of the week.
last season we complained at Washbrook at 6, next season it's looks like we'll complain at Washbrook at 9. oh the joys!!
FWIW Agar needs to give his head a bang if we go into 2011 without Sammut OR Obst (or Moore?)'"
Why should Agar give his head a bang? Maybe the Sammutt deal is too much for a player who might only stay one or two years? Maybe he rates Nicklas as highly as Moore and as for Obst I agree he would be a decent signing but I would play him as a hooker and not a half.
Can I ask why all of a sudden Moore is being talked so highly, if he was that good then surely a SL side would have snapped him up by now?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Why should Agar give his head a bang? Maybe the Sammutt deal is too much for a player who might only stay one or two years? Maybe he rates Nicklas as highly as Moore and as for Obst I agree he would be a decent signing but I would play him as a hooker and not a half.
Can I ask why all of a sudden Moore is being talked so highly, if he was that good then surely a SL side would have snapped him up by now?'"
moore is been talked about because hes a talented young half thats young and proved it in the championship and with full time training at a super league club potentially who knows how good he could become, ohh and i think as a club we need halfback cover i think anyway
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| Quote ="B0NES"If wire are sounding out Eastmond then we must chuck our hat in the ring as well.'"
I said on here 18 months ago we should have made an offer for him, loads said he was rubbish and should not go for him, we then signed Long........
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| Quote ="PAUL M"
Can I ask why all of a sudden Moore is being talked so highly, if he was that good then surely a SL side would have snapped him up by now?'"
Cannot answer why he hasnt being snapped up by a SL club yet - maybe he is high maintenance?
From my point of view by leading Batley successfully last season in a very competitive Championship division puts him ahead development wise of Nicklas and Williams and given the fact he is both young and English would seem to be an ideal choice for number 7 cover to the Hull first team right now.
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| I reckon that we should keep space the open and the money in our pockets for now . As a team we do not have to panick buy YET . Sammut might be asking for to much plus he does want to return to the NRL .
18mths - 2years ago no one had heard of Kyle Eastmond lets hope our youngsters can replicate him .Why buy some one who is not planning to stay . Why buy some aged Australian just over to top up his pension . EVERY one is always harping on about the overseas players stopping our [British youths from progressing well lets give them a chance hopefully they will step up to the mark . Heres hoping
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Why should Agar give his head a bang? Maybe the Sammutt deal is too much for a player who might only stay one or two years? Maybe he rates Nicklas as highly as Moore and as for Obst I agree he would be a decent signing but I would play him as a hooker and not a half.
Can I ask why all of a sudden Moore is being talked so highly, if he was that good then surely a SL side would have snapped him up by now?'"
Not sure about Moore to be honest, i've heard he's got potential but i agree there's no guarantee at SL level
Regarding Agar i would be very disappointed going into 2011 without HB cover when the injuries are inevitable. I think Sam Obst would be a good signing for a year or two and we could probably prize him away from Wakefield - i would think there's more chance of that than signing Sammut from crusaders
If Horne/Long/Houghton do not get injured then i take it all back
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| Quote ="Tooms2000"
18mths - 2years ago no one had heard of Kyle Eastmond lets hope our youngsters can replicate him .'"
18 months ago we should have bust the bank for him
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| Quote ="kingston droolers"18 months ago we should have bust the bank for him'"
18 months ago he was a key part of Saints plans for the future. What makes you think they would have sold him?
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| Quote ="Kosh"18 months ago he was a key part of Saints plans for the future. What makes you think they would have sold him?'"
was that the plan than involved offloading their over the hill injury prone players to a lesser SL club while having a ready made replacement coming through the ranks, must be nice to have a plan.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Cannot answer why he hasnt being snapped up by a SL club yet - maybe he is high maintenance?
From my point of view by leading Batley successfully last season in a very competitive Championship division puts him ahead development wise of Nicklas and Williams and given the fact he is both young and English would seem to be an ideal choice for number 7 cover to the Hull first team right now.'"
That's fair enough but there must be soem reason that Leeds let him go and other clubs have not signed him? I would have thought he would be worth the risk though, not much to lose as Nicklas is a 6 and Williams is still a couple of years away from first grade.
I am thinking it might be better to keep our money in our pockets for a while in terms of halves as something always materialises during the season so we would be in a prime position to act.
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"[uwas that the plan [/uthan involved offloading their over the hill injury prone players to a lesser SL club while having a ready made replacement coming through the ranks, must be nice to have a plan.'"
You know I think it might have been!!
Sts made no bones about it. Our problem with planning to bring good young players through is probably that we just don't have enough of them. The recent England academy squad announcement underlines why Sts , Wigan , Wire Leeds and even Bradford are ahead of us with between 4 and 6 representatives each in the squad to our 2.
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| Quote ="kingston droolers"I said on here 18 months ago we should have made an offer for him, loads said he was rubbish and should not go for him, we then signed Long........'"
Are you sure you haven't just made this up?
I haven't seen anyone say this?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"That's fair enough but there must be soem reason that Leeds let him go and other clubs have not signed him? I would have thought he would be worth the risk though, not much to lose as Nicklas is a 6 and Williams is still a couple of years away from first grade.
I am thinking it might be better to keep our money in our pockets for a while in terms of halves as something always materialises during the season so we would be in a prime position to act.'"
I would guess any young half back at leeds must look at the McGuire/Burrows partnership and realise chances may be very limited especially when Leeds tend to move Sinfield to 6 when either player is injured.
I agree about keeping the money in our pockets because good players will become available once the season starts on both sides of the world and by then over inflated prices will not be such an issue.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Quote ="kingston droolers"18 months ago we should have bust the bank for him'"
18 months ago he was a key part of Saints plans for the future. What makes you think they would have sold him?'"
Not only a key part of their future, but we also brought in three huge signings. I doubt we could have had a chance to fit him in.
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| Sammut will sign in the next week or so
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| Leeds needed another halfback for this season.
Did they try and sign Moore no, they signed a young kid from Wigan.
Moore might make a good SL player but the fact that no SL have tried to sign him despite being young and in a position that most clubs struggle in tells it's own story.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"I would guess any young half back at leeds must look at the McGuire/Burrows partnership and realise chances may be very limited especially when Leeds tend to move Sinfield to 6 when either player is injured.
I agree about keeping the money in our pockets because good players will become available once the season starts on both sides of the world and by then over inflated prices will not be such an issue.'"
You only have to look as far as Scott Murrell to see a player who couldnt force his way past the Leeds half backs so dropped down to the Championship/National League before re-emerging in the Super League a better player and is now in the England squad.
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| Quote ="OllieFC"Sammut will sign in the next week or so'"
Is this just made up or told from Jarrod himself?
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Is this just made up or told from Jarrod himself?'"
Just watch this space mate
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| Quote ="OllieFC"Just watch this space mate'"
I'm not saying he isn't! I don't know any more then anyone else, and I hope he does come. Just curious to your sources?
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I can stop banging on about Sam Obst if Sammut is on his way
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I can stop banging on about Sam Obst if Sammut is on his way
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Both?
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| Very, very strong.
Sorry mate, I can't say anymore. I realise this sounds vague, and certainly rumour mongering.
But just watch this space.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"I'm not saying he isn't! I don't know any more then anyone else, and I hope he does come. Just curious to your sources?'"
i've also heard the signing is going to happen from friends but i expect i'm no better informed than any other fc supporter
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