brilliant post!! finally someone with sense!!

Tell you what then, find just a couple of quotes from regular posters on this board from after the derby where they were singing Agar's praises and then contrast them with quotes showing how they've changed their tune after last nights game.

Cue response saying how you can't be bothered/ haven't got time etc...

Tell me where anybody has slated us for losing? The majority expected to lose last night, it is however the manner of the defeat that people are upset with. I remember a few years ago Saints played a virtual reserve side against Leeds (Pretty sure it was the game Longy & co bet on) yet those players went out and showed more passion and commitment that night then our players did last night.
If we lose like we did against Warrington people can accept it, but lose like we did against Wakefield and Wigan and it is a very bitter pill to swallow.

Exactly. This is about the fourth such thread/post since last night. Just fecking read what people have written, for Christ's sake.

nah not that agar part i aint botherd about what they say about him because at the end of the day hes signed up for 2 years he doesnt get on the pitch week in week out its not his fault the players are injured its getting on the back of players that do my head in we all know they read the boards and 1 second there amazing the next get rid of him on the next plane back to oz lar de dar de dar!! we wasnt expected to win last night i myself didnt expect nothing but defeat just lay off them a bit thats all!! at the end of the day were 5th and i fully expect to finish 4th if i said that this time last year would you of took it?

I never expected a win last night. I also didn't expect us to get nilled.

We played Wigan with a full strength team, and conceded MORE points than last night!!!

I thought the effort was ok last night, just our tactics are light years behind.

Thanks for that.I will consider myself duly chastised.

I`m with you there,but to be fair Wigan were a cut above us on the night.
Or am I being fickle?

We didn't have Calderwood, Moa and Turner that day!!

Is there only Hull who have injurys to key player's FFS



Injury's is just an excuse to hide the fact that Hulls performance was disgusting and to be nilled at home is beyond Agar's position and half the squad

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I'll give you the part about not slagging players off as i agree, i also didn't expect a win last night.....however i did expect us to get some of the basic stuff right (in hindsight i guess i was being slightly dilusional) also the manner of the defeat wasn't acceptable in my view....but hey a may just come across as being fickle!

That performance last night was a joke. Not many expected us to get a win but we shouldn't be happy to be nilled and beaten by 46 points either. Our defence was shocking for almost the full 80 minutes, regardless of injuries the players out there are professional rugby league players and should be able to do the basics right, no matter who you play. We seemed clueless in attack too.

Im fickle!!!

I did'nt expect a win last night either,i was hoping for a surprise though.
What i do expect of a team of 17 full time professional rugby league players is the ability to catch a ball,tackle,back up the player with the ball,and above all show some bloody pride in that shirt on your back.
I certainly do not expect to be nilled at home by anyone regardless of whether we have a full team out or not.
All teams get injuries,and i do think we have had more than most, but our club has used this as a crutch for the past two and a half seasons.
For me this is waring a bit thin now and after last night i have come to the conclusion,ok its taken me a bit longer than some on here,that are squad/back up players are way short of super league top eight standard.

I'd love to see how the likes of Man United and other clubs of THAT calibre in sport would cope with an injury list like the one we seem to be burdoned with over the last few years?
It really does baffle me how some of you can't see this. You dont seem to grasp the SIMPLE FACT that a team is weakened when its KEY PLAYERS get injured. Its not rocket science..but just for you,,,I'll simplify it.
Ready?

Here goes.......

Try to immagine a gladiator going into the arena armed with a handbag and some rude words to shout....Got that image?
OK...thats basicaly what we're dealing with. His main stabbing weapons are missing...but if he hits hard enough with his handbag (maybe inserts a brick or two) and doesnt have a sore throat...he might get lucky.
See.....its easy......No Team......slim chance......please try to let that sink in eh?

How many KEY PLAYERS were missing at Wigan in March,when we conceded more points, than last night??

When was the last time we beat a side by 30 points?

Totally agree with what you put, i thought we would have a good score put past us with the team we had out and especially against wigan who are by far the best team in super league this year. too many people on here cant accept some honist fair views and like always resort to grammer.

no you are right hull arnt the only club, bradford for instance have and are really struggling, i never expected to get nilled but expected wigan to have a good run out on us

Yea but look at the strength in depth they have compared to hull

All very good. How do you explaing the hammering at the DW earlier in the season with a full strength team?

The hammering was by the far better team, the best team in the comp by far.

Yet there are teams who compete with them.

And his post was stating things would be different if we'd had teh players in last night who were in teh previous match

Im not so sure hull would have won but with longy, ogre and fitz on the pitch would have been far closer, and if we had them back against rovers hull would have put alot more past the dobbins. leeds were the same had major injuries and struggled there way through the first half of the season. we have no strength in depth witch is why we struggle when we have a few injuries. if hull had 2 quality half backs hull would be a very good team, but unfortunately we have to grind wins due to the lack of leardership and control on the pitch ( part from when longy is on we atleast have a bit of organisation).