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| I was talking as a fan, do you take say a 500 away crowd and more money or 2000-3000 crowd with a better atmosphere and experience.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"It was obviously a fictitious scenario, just seeing where people sit on each side of atmosphere and money.'"
But it's pointless. You might as well ask if people would rather have £100 or a pair of rocket boots.
I will admit that I think the KC is a little overpriced, but I also think you maybe need to consider how much the lack of away fans is a contributing factor in the first place. Perhaps if most clubs brought more than the player's wives and parents as an excuse for an away following the prices wouldn't have risen so high. I'm not saying that would definitely be the case, but when the North Stand is consistently outnumbered by the stewards and catering staff then you've made yourselves such a minority that it's just further reason for the club not to put you too high in the list of priorities. They'll sort the home crowds out first and worry about you once that's fixed.
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| I think there should be some sort of initiative for away fans, not aiming this at Hull but all teams, come up with an idea that brings in the numbers oh and my scenarios are also not aimed at Hull.
What clubs need to realise is the atmosphere is one of the big selling points, and if you're not producing it, it ruins the experience.
Look at London, even if they won SL for the next 3 years running i still think they'd struggle with crowds, they have no real rivalry, away fans don't get overly passionate there and people leave feeling a little flat, i know, I've watched them often enough
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| Just to point out, including petrol money/coach fares Hull and Rovers fans spend more as away fans than the other clubs in the north of England as we have further to travel.
Warrington have a number of near neighbours. Widnes, St Helens and Wigan all within 13 miles or so I believe which is like Hull playing away games in Beverley, Brough and South Cave.
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| Salford, Swinton and Leigh too
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"I was talking as a fan, do you take say a 500 away crowd and more money or 2000-3000 crowd with a better atmosphere and experience.'"
Even if it was free, no club would bring 2000-3000
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| "But it's pointless. You might as well ask if people would rather have £100 or a pair of rocket boots."
Rocket boots please mate......where do I sign?
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"I was talking as a fan, do you take say a 500 away crowd and more money or 2000-3000 crowd with a better atmosphere and experience.'"
Two to three thousand away fans?
If we offered the seats for free and paid the travel we wouldn't get 2-3k from the majority of SL clubs. In those circumstances I'd take the option that made us some cash, cheers.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"I think there should be some sort of initiative for away fans, not aiming this at Hull but all teams, come up with an idea that brings in the numbers oh and my scenarios are also not aimed at Hull.
What clubs need to realise is the atmosphere is one of the big selling points, and if you're not producing it, it ruins the experience.
Look at London, even if they won SL for the next 3 years running i still think they'd struggle with crowds, they have no real rivalry, away fans don't get overly passionate there and people leave feeling a little flat, i know, I've watched them often enough'"
London's problem, as with the majority of clubs, is the number of [ihome[/i fans that turn up regularly. This needs fixing long before worrying about the away fans. AP realises that fact, and hence the incentives will be aimed at home fans until the numbers rise to an acceptable level.
We're used to small away followings and Hull fans will turn up in numbers if the product on the pitch is good and home pricing is right [iregardless[/i of how full the North Stand happens to be.
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| Rocket Boots sound interesting......
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| If Sky do start televising Monday night games, there'll be no problem counting the numbers of travelling away fans, unless the games are at adjacent clubs
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| Quote ="number 6"most still cant get it into their heads that the kc isnt segregated and if they chose too, they could sit in any stand, still nowt like a good whinge at fc!'"
Not sure of your comment, as we have been refused entry when we tried to sit down side, and told it was due to council safety cerificate restrictions when I complained.
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| According to the Wakey site, North stand prices increase to £25 in advance, £27 on the day from 27th February.
Has anybody else heard of this price rise, because I can't find it mentioned anywhere.
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| I hope they have got this wrong, charging £23/£25 for away fans when we pay £19 for the opposite is bad enough but charging £25/£27 is shocking if true.
If it was the other way around ours fans would be going nuts.
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| EDIT:
Having read the Wakefield thread. It's clear that the prices aren't changing and that the 27/02/12 is the deadline for them to get tickets for £23.
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Basically, some Wakey fans read this article on their website and came to the conclusion that tickets were going up to £27:
www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/news ... c/2012/02/
They simply state that the deadline for £23 tickets is the 27th.
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Basically, some Wakey fans read this article on their website and came to the conclusion that tickets were going up to £27:
www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/news ... c/2012/02/
They simply state that the deadline for £23 tickets is the 27th.
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| Now the pie fans are moaning too, looks like it's going to be a recurring theme throughout the season, bad PR for Hull.
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In sections W1 and W2, an adult and child can watch the match for just £25 – that’s less than half price when compared to other areas of the stadium"
I assume this is factually incorrect? How is £25 less than half price for 2 tickets (1 a kids)
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Now the pie fans are moaning too, looks like it's going to be a recurring theme throughout the season, bad PR for Hull.'"
The pies charge more for away fans than they do for home fans aswell.
I still don't see a problem with away fans buying in advance from their club for £23
It may seem like bad PR from an away fans point of view but bear in mind that most away fans won't travel because of distance or a previous bad experience
It makes sense to me to target the home support who will hopefully come back each week instead of trying to target away fans who historically hardly ever travel in numbers to either us or kr.
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Now the pie fans are moaning too, looks like it's going to be a recurring theme throughout the season, bad PR for Hull.'"
Who cares?
Most clubs struggle to muster even a measly 1000 fans at the KC
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| The passed few seasons Wigan/Saints/Warrington fans complained that traveling
down the M62 on a Friday night was not on .But Wigan/Saints will still play on a Friday night and will do this
season .But the fans from both Hull Clubs will have to travel down to they grounds on a Friday night I never heard them
feeling sorry for the fans from Hull .There must think we travel down a different motorway.Has for the price to
enter the KC Stadium .To stand at most grounds you are looking at £20 plus and no cover .To pay £23/25 to sit
under cover and not worry about the weather is a small price to pay for comfort
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Who cares?
Most clubs struggle to muster even a measly 1000 fans at the KC'"
Indeed. What matters to the club is how many home fans attend, not away fans.
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| Quote ="clubfoot fc"The pies charge more for away fans than they do for home fans aswell.
I still don't see a problem with away fans buying in advance from their club for £23
It may seem like bad PR from an away fans point of view but bear in mind that most away fans won't travel because of distance or a previous bad experience
It makes sense to me to target the home support who will hopefully come back each week instead of trying to target away fans who historically hardly ever travel in numbers to either us or kr.'"
Yet Wigan is still one of the cheapest for us to go to!!!!!!!
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