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| Quote ="Rock God X"I like how people said Holdsworth was a bag of crap last year in all but the odd game, and now, when it suits their purpose, he's the reason we finished 6th (though, as paintman says, we didn't have him the year before). Funny, that.'"
He had a kicking game that we don't possess now - it certainly won us through against Wire. He was average with ball in hand for sure but I doubt Miller and Rankin would be keeping him out of the current side. |
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"He had a kicking game that we don't possess now - it certainly won us through against Wire. He was average with ball in hand for sure but I doubt Miller and Rankin would be keeping him out of the current side.'"
I'm not saying he didn't have good games - most notably the cup semi - but he was also roundly panned on here nearly every week, those odd games notwithstanding. It seems a little ironic that some people now try to intimate that he had more to do with our 6th place finish than Gentle, despite the fact that we also finished 6th the year before without him. |
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| Quote ="Rock God X"I'm not saying he didn't have good games - most notably the cup semi - but he was also roundly panned on here nearly every week, those odd games notwithstanding. It seems a little ironic that some people now try to intimate that he had more to do with our 6th place finish than Gentle, despite the fact that we also finished 6th the year before without him.'"
Yeah, but we had Andy Lynch in those two seasons. You know, the one who was "finished" and is now leading from the front at 4th placed Cas.  |
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| Quote ="edinburgh yorkie"listened too it on yorkshire radio,but got fed up of ritchie mathers going into too deep explanations about what has happened instead of telling you what is happening,if you get my drift.'"
Yeah get what you mean but I like the guy who was doing the commentary, all ways keeping up with play good discription of the plays etc etc... a million times better than Gollum and his cronies |
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| Quote ="Fields of Fire"Yeah get what you mean but I like the guy who was doing the commentary, all ways keeping up with play good discription of the plays etc etc... a million times better than Gollum and his cronies'"
i totaly agree with you,the guy who did the commentary was good,always keeping you well informed of what was happening.2nd time i`ve listened to yorkshire radio,and will do so again.far superior to that lump of lard lloyd. |
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| Like others have said, if you replace a coach then you need to replace him with someone better. Is Radford better than Gentle? At the moment you'd have to say no.
I don't really buy into this "wait till he's got his own team" approach. Gentle's first season was with Agar's team and we finished sixth. In fact, along with Hudds, we were the leagues in form team to begin with. I remember when we won the Good Friday derby that year that we were all singing about being top of the league.
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Quote There will be no excuses about this not being my team. Everybody knows expectations of this club and I'm fully aware of them.'"
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| Quote ="Doc Brown"Like others have said, if you replace a coach then you need to replace him with someone better. Is Radford better than Gentle? At the moment you'd have to say no.
I don't really buy into this "wait till he's got his own team" approach. Gentle's first season was with Agar's team and we finished sixth. In fact, along with Hudds, we were the leagues in form team to begin with. I remember when we won the Good Friday derby that year that we were all singing about being top of the league.
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If the man himself isn't using it as an excuse, should we the fans use it as an excuse?'"
I agree. Radford, to his credit, pre-emted that he would never make calls for his "own team". He was present during the assembling of his inherited set of men and made minimal recruitment in addition to what Gentle had already secured. This team [iis[/i his team far more than that which is the lot of most new coaches. And Radford is the first to admit it.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"We should judge him as he asks to be judged.'"
Yup, he's useless |
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| Quote ="Standee"Yup, he's useless'"
Tho most coaches would be useless will this bunch of losers we have as players |
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| Quote ="wudmansir"Quote ="Standee"Yup, he's useless'"
Tho most coaches would be useless will this bunch of losers we have as players'"
Most would get more out of them than Radford does. |
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| Quote ="Rock God X"It seems a little ironic that some people now try to intimate that he had more to do with our 6th place finish than Gentle, despite the fact that we also finished 6th the year before without him.'"
I hadn't really picked up anyone saying that to be honest. Just people bemoaning our current kicking game (which must be about the worst in the league) and saying how it was better when Holdsworth played. |
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"What people actually seem to forget is Gentle actually had a half back with a good kicking game . I'll judge our current coach starting from the beginning of next season'"
Only cos your mates with the pub landlord,if you was doing well you wouldnt be waiting for next season you would be wallowing in his glory this season,but your doin cr@p thats why its next season.  |
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| Quote ="Doc Brown"Like others have said, if you replace a coach then you need to replace him with someone better. Is Radford better than Gentle? At the moment you'd have to say no.
I don't really buy into this "wait till he's got his own team" approach. Gentle's first season was with Agar's team and we finished sixth. In fact, along with Hudds, we were the leagues in form team to begin with. I remember when we won the Good Friday derby that year that we were all singing about being top of the league.
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If the man himself isn't using it as an excuse, should we the fans use it as an excuse?'"
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| Quote ="deslawson"Darryl powell seems to be doing ok with the team he inherited minus chase.'"
Another good example. Thanks Des. |
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Quote ="Legends and Icons"Fwiw I don't except mediocrity but I do believe that Rome wasn't built in a day , 2006 Wigan were nearly relegated and restructured the full DNA of the club and are reaping the benefits and will do so for many more years and that's what we need to do and hopefully that's what Adam Pearson and Lee Radford aim to do . As a city we are a hotbed for rugby league and I'm sure I've read somewhere we have 3teams teams from hulls junior leagues taking part in national cup finals in which have just won one . I think we will see a much smaller squad for the next few season which will make a better path way to first team football for our young lads . Hopefully quality over quantity , we have chopped a lot of cap space already this season and imo I think we could see upto 10 of this seasons squad getting moved on !!'"
Looks like we were correct with a smaller squad with quality over quantity
www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC- ... story.html
A new experienced half-back is likely to arrive, with former Hull KR scrum-half Michael Dobson and New Zealand Warriors' Thomas Leuluai among those believed to have been approached.
While Dobson looks set to return to Super League but across the Pennines, it's still a statement of intent from FC and an indication of the type of quality they are pursuing.
"Sa's signing is the way we want to go forward as a club," explained Radford.
"We are looking at players that have a bit of X-factor and then combine that with a group of players from Hull.
Read more: www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC- ... z32vLPp0Sh |
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Quote ="Legends and Icons"Fwiw I don't except mediocrity but I do believe that Rome wasn't built in a day , 2006 Wigan were nearly relegated and restructured the full DNA of the club and are reaping the benefits and will do so for many more years and that's what we need to do and hopefully that's what Adam Pearson and Lee Radford aim to do . As a city we are a hotbed for rugby league and I'm sure I've read somewhere we have 3teams teams from hulls junior leagues taking part in national cup finals in which have just won one . I think we will see a much smaller squad for the next few season which will make a better path way to first team football for our young lads . Hopefully quality over quantity , we have chopped a lot of cap space already this season and imo I think we could see upto 10 of this seasons squad getting moved on !!'"
Looks like we were correct with a smaller squad with quality over quantity
www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-FC- ... story.html
A new experienced half-back is likely to arrive, with former Hull KR scrum-half Michael Dobson and New Zealand Warriors' Thomas Leuluai among those believed to have been approached.
While Dobson looks set to return to Super League but across the Pennines, it's still a statement of intent from FC and an indication of the type of quality they are pursuing.
"Sa's signing is the way we want to go forward as a club," explained Radford.
"We are looking at players that have a bit of X-factor and then combine that with a group of players from Hull.
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| No arguments from me that we need more quality. The key will be to get the right squad balance and not leave ourselves too short in the quantity department. Lets face it, at FC the next injury crisis is always just around the corner .
The halfback situation will be interesting. As the article says, Dobson and Leuluai shows the type of quality we're aiming for. But will we be able to sign either of them? Lets hope the club is looking further afield in case the answer is no and doesn't end up in a situation where they panic buy. |
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leuluai would not address our problems of a lack of creativity and no kicking game
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quality over quantity is great, but all the other teams are after those same quality players too, and we all know that not many of them become available because of the fact they are quality.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"leuluai would not address our problems of a lack of creativity and no kicking game'"
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"I think it would be a massive signing tbh'"
Each to their own. If we do get him I hope I'm wrong |
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Each to their own. If we do get him I hope I'm wrong'"
Don't get me wrong jake I'd still like to see an organiser with a kicking game come too but TL would be a massive improvement on the current team . |
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"Don't get me wrong jake I'd still like to see an organiser with a kicking game come too but TL would be a massive improvement on the current team .'"
Wouldn't take much to be fair. He'd take a big slice of salary cap and wouldn't address 2 fundamental issues which we've had for the most part since 2007. He'd be heralded as the club saviour but wouldn't be IMO |
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Wouldn't take much to be fair. He'd take a big slice of salary cap and wouldn't address 2 fundamental issues which we've had for the most part since 2007. He'd be heralded as the club saviour but wouldn't be IMO'"
sounds like a signing going by his surname and family connections with the club, trying to attract some fans back rather than an organising half we need
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| Quote ="number 6"sounds like a signing going by his surname and family connections with the club, trying to attract some fans back rather than an organising half we need
again if he signs, hope i am wrong, great hooker though!'"
Maybe he's just the best we can get in which case it's worth a try |
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Maybe he's just the best we can get in which case it's worth a try'"
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