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| Quote ="ccs"Hull City Council have said this morning that there has been absolutely no contact with them regarding the sale of the SMC (or City), so either the Allams are keeping it, or the Hull City sale is currently a non-starter.'"
If you read further down the Hull Daily Mail article there is an alarming comment that the Council's clause to be involved in discussions about the SMC being sold expired in 2012 ![Shocked icon_eek.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_eek.gif) so legally they might not have to be even told.
Seems yet another I'll thought out clause in the contract, 2012 probably seemed a long way away back in the early 00s but yet again there seems to have been no plan or safety net for when Pearson left City and the SMC.
Only good news is I believe Pearson still has a very good relationship with the council, so if they do know anything he'd be in the loop I'd imagine.
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| .... I haven't seen that comment in the HDM, mine came from Radio Humberside...
Quote Council Leader Daren Hale tells the Burnsy Show @RadioHumberside there has been no approach to @Hullccnews from anybody interested in buying @HullCity
He says he would have expected contact especially in the case of sale of the SMC.'"
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| Quote ="ccs".... I haven't seen that comment in the HDM, mine came from Radio Humberside...
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Hale wouldent be highlighting the matter as it seems yet another Council cockup
HDM article says this about a 2014 Council Reports findings:
"The report also revealed the lease only required council consent for its transfer to a third party or the disposal of shares in the SMC up to December 2012 under a clause in the original agreement"
"As a result, the council cannot now raise any potential legal challenge to a potential takeover of the company"
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| Quote ="Armavinit"Why would he do that? More importantly, why was he allowed to take out a loan for £8.5m on the SMC when he doesn’t own it. Isn’t it still owned by the Council?'"
Allam owns the SMC the council own the stadium
Bartlett took out a mortgage on the SMC is that what you mean?
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| Quote ="bonaire"Allam owns the SMC the council own the stadium
Bartlett took out a mortgage on the SMC is that what you mean?'"
If memory serves, Bartlett took out a loan using the SMC as collateral, to fit out the boardroom. Allam took out a mortgage for £8.5m and fully loaded it with debt. Does anybody know what the mortgage was for?
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| Quote ="Armavinit"If memory serves, Bartlett took out a loan using the SMC as collateral, to fit out the boardroom. Allam took out a mortgage for £8.5m and fully loaded it with debt. Does anybody know what the mortgage was for?'"
Probably to help pay for the Allam’s ‘gift to the City!’
The SMC concept has been abused though. Not sure if it’s happened like that with other stadiums, like Man City move to the Etihad had a similar deal with the Council.
If it’s in the air with City being sold, wonder if there’s scope for Adam to buy it and regain ownership? Might cost a bit in the short term, but may provide more stability for us in the future and provide more revenue opportunities from the stadium.
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| Quote ="Rugby Raider"Probably to help pay for the Allam’s ‘gift to the City!’
The SMC concept has been abused though. Not sure if it’s happened like that with other stadiums, like Man City move to the Etihad had a similar deal with the Council.
If it’s in the air with City being sold, wonder if there’s scope for Adam to buy it and regain ownership? Might cost a bit in the short term, but may provide more stability for us in the future and provide more revenue opportunities from the stadium.'"
Its needs to be someone that is totally independent and impartial and that has proven experience running Stadiums/Arenas etc. The KC has never really been run or utilised properly and this needs to be addressed for the benefit of the City Council, both Hull FC and Hull City and just as importantly the local community and local sporting clubs.
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| Hearing rumours of Richardson coming. Don't think much to him really. Probably better cover in the halves than McNamara but not good enough as a starter
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| Quote ="Hasbag"Hearing rumours of Richardson coming. Don't think much to him really. Probably better cover in the halves than McNamara but not good enough as a starter'"
He's a show pony and can't defend.
He looked mentally broken at Cas too. I don't want this to come across as arrogant but I don't think he's cut out to be a 7 at a big club. He'd crumble under the pressure here.
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| Hope we can pay for our 2022 passes in Turkish lira ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"Hope we can pay for our 2022 passes in Turkish lira
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So do !!
I've got about £300 left over from last year but our holiday this year was cancelled ![Smile icon_smile.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"So do !!
I've got about £300 left over from last year but our holiday this year was cancelled
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"Inshallah Marcus bey
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Impressed. The only Turkish word I know is "Efes" as in two bottles please ![Smile icon_smile.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_smile.gif)
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| City have just confirmed that 'due diligence' is taking place with a potential buyer
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| Quote ="Chris71"Thats my concern as its a possibility that is something the Allams would do to stick it to the fans of City, Adam Pearson and the City Council so I would hope that the Council have something in the terms of the agreement with regards the SMC running of the Stadium or have at least been prepared for this possible outcome since they put the club up for sale.'"
You are asking far too much of Hull City Council. They couldn’t organise a booze up in a brewery. My mate used to work there and he said half of them would be better use sat in a corner with a box of crayons !
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| Quote ="Rugby Raider"Probably to help pay for the Allam’s ‘gift to the City!’
The SMC concept has been abused though. Not sure if it’s happened like that with other stadiums, like Man City move to the Etihad had a similar deal with the Council.
If it’s in the air with City being sold, wonder if there’s scope for Adam to buy it and regain ownership? Might cost a bit in the short term, but may provide more stability for us in the future and provide more revenue opportunities from the stadium.'"
Can he afford to do that ?
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| Quote ="The Camels Hump"Quote ="Chris71"Thats my concern as its a possibility that is something the Allams would do to stick it to the fans of City, Adam Pearson and the City Council so I would hope that the Council have something in the terms of the agreement with regards the SMC running of the Stadium or have at least been prepared for this possible outcome since they put the club up for sale.'"
You are asking far too much of Hull City Council. They couldn’t organise a booze up in a brewery. My mate used to work there and he said half of them would be better use sat in a corner with a box of crayons !'"
That’s exactly the reason for concern as you can bet that HCC have made a right balls up of the whole thing as they are so out of their depth. They make decisions when no one has any experience in the real world and seem to play with finances as though it was Monopoly money.
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| Quote ="UllFC"City have just confirmed that 'due diligence' is taking place with a potential buyer'"
The SMC has been and will always be the sticking point to any deal the Allams try to make to sell Hull City.
Its always been loss making whilst in their control yet they still want a substantial figure for it based on the £5 million pound figure reported when the USA buyer pulled out of the deal reporting that the goal posts had been moved.
In any case who in their right mind would pay £30 million for a club that could be relegated once again made loss last year of £8 million and is hamstrung in the transfer market until the EFL loan is repaid.
With no player value apart from Lewis Potter who could be valued at £2 million the club is virtually worthless.
The Turk has not even been to Hull,Not spoken with HCC and until Allam pays of the EFL loan nothing is going to happen even if Due Diligence is taking place.
In todays market as a relegation bound Championship club its probably valued at £10/15 million pounds so why would anyone want to pay £30 million.
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"Inshallah Marcus bey
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Merabah! (Inshallah) That's Arabic ain't it Rider?
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"Impressed. The only Turkish word I know is "Efes" as in two bottles please
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Getting quite expensive now. Some places charging 30 - 35 lira a bottle
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| Quote ="Isaiah"Getting quite expensive now. Some places charging 30 - 35 lira a bottle'"
Florida Bar Icmeler 20 lira ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="Isaiah"Merabah! (Inshallah) That's Arabic ain't it Rider?'"
Hello to you Isaiah,
Mustafa Kemal Ataturk the founder of modern Turkey in the thirties, also reformed the language from Persian and Arabic influences, but obviously some words still remain.
It’s interesting though isn’t it, that with all that rich culture and historical beauty that abounds this wonderful country, two ull supporters are fixated by the price of beer
You can take the man out of Hull as they say.
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| Tyrone May has been released/sacked by the Panthers. His options in the NRL will be limited too, due to his past.
He's a half/utility. I wouldn't touch him with a barge pole, but if Reynolds stays in Aus.
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| Pass details are out, doesn't seem anything different from an inital glance.
States that games will be on a Weekend where possible which I think is a good move.
The corporate crowd were a reason to stick to Friday nights but given the economy and that many are now working virtually I think corporate seats will be a tough sell.
Traffic in Hull is a nightmare these days too so getting to the stadium on a Thursday and Friday can take a while from some parts of Hull. It should help get more away fans in too.
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