Another dick comment spoils your post.

Why did griffin even pass the ball to fonua?

cas didnt in 14 and the grand final is a bigger occasion, Wire have failed against us and the Thugs, its on the night and IF we get there we have the experience, after last year its good to be back in the mix tbh

Because the last time he went glory against leigh it cost us the game.didn't do anything wrong passing it.just looked a terrible decision

Radfud last week said the Errors were a mind set
Now post match he says the team may as well not bother researching the opposition
But spend all week in catching practice I assume

Missed tackles, Errors - we are the worst team in the League for the 2 combined

This isn't fixed overnight as it's part of a coaches DNA from when he walks into the building Day 1

Mind set of the players is absolutely the coaches domain and he has to take responbility for that, interesting that he still won't own up to his own defficiences but will do the players. good job the fans are still cheering at home!

That was a good old scrap tonight, maybe Leeds got a couple of decisive calls, but the two assistants would have a better view than any of us on the terraces. Speaking as a Leeds fan, I thought it was a well deserved two points having lost two players so early on in the game. From a Hull perspective, I would be worried that you couldn't capililise on our injury woes and go on to win the game. It won't give us any indication as to how the semi will pan out, for me it's still a 50/50' game. Injuries and bans could still influence both teams selections, and because the refs have so many calls to make, they will always play their part. I can't wait for the semi, a sold out ground with so much animosity between the fans means it's gonna be a biggy which ever way you look at it.

Can't agree, Leeds were as dirty as ever and Hick and his assistants gave the result to Leeds, but the points are on the league table. I'd like a copy of the new set of rules Hicks was playing to, it wasn't RL all too often. The Leeds Dan's were as gracious in victory as ever (ie.Not at all) unless we get an unbiased referee I think the RFL (aka Mr Hetherington) will have London hotels booked.

Jesus you're boring at times ..team sports is unexplainable at times. Strange things happen at times..so many variables make it hard to pinpoint..
Since you know everything explain to me how mini and a few others have gone from being key men to liabilities within 3 games after months/years of consistency. How pros can't hold simple passes when unchallenged...now before you go off on 1 about man management etc and this is the bit I really want you to explain to me is given the things I've highlighted which you may want to pin on coach and could explain..how do you tally that up if it's a mindset thing with that Defence. Cos that Defence was pretty unreal at times. And in RL nothing is more honest and a truer marker of mindset than defence.. particularly goal line D

Yep we've become complacent not enough drive in attack from too many players. Is it because their too cozy with the coach? All lads together on a night out. Who is in charge?

They say a picture paints a thousand words so.... www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/ru ... ord-202725

They say a picture paints a thousand words so.... www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/ru ... ord-202725

Proper Hull tinted specs on from you it would appear

. Tough to take for you, but don't make yourself look a total div by getting all dramatic. You lost a game you might have won, but your conspiracy theory is coming across as a bit 9/11 to be honest. Some you win, some you lose, but try not to act like Minichello when you don't get the rub. Makes you look like a little kid.

Quote ="Sheephead"They say a picture paints a thousand words so.... www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/ru ... ord-202725'" Which one you on about chief ? The one where he's going over the line and the ball is about 3ft in the air ? Don't think we can conclude anything from that. Why don't you get O.J Simpson's legal team on it, I'm sure they'll make a case.

Quote ="Sheephead"They say a picture paints a thousand words so.... www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/ru ... ord-202725'" Which one you on about chief ? The one where he's going over the line and the ball is about 3ft in the air ? Don't think we can conclude anything from that. Why don't you get O.J Simpson's legal team on it, I'm sure they'll make a case.

Which one? The Fonua disallowed try you can clear see Walkers hands all over the ball trying the strip it rather then cover, the out come of that was a 20 metre restart meaning they judge Fonua had lost the ball over the line.

I don't need OJs lawyers for that one but again on Sky that's a different outcome and maybe a game changer.

Not excusing the team tho the 3 weeks now with poor completion rate not good enough for the top 4 but on the other hand we haven't had a 50/50 call in 3 weeks

its done now anyway, think if cameras been there it might have been given, that decision didn't cost us the game not holding the ball did, yes weve lost 3 games but win next 2 and where at Wembley and maybe 4th, the season starts then,

Seriously ! I don't know what you expect him to do with his hands when a 16 stone bloke is about to land on him, but I don't know how you can say he's stripping it from a still image. I would have had no qualms if Hull had won that game, but let's not get silly with still images and conspiracy theories. Enjoy the semi in 2 weeks and let's hope we don't have to debate whether a contentious decision either way decides it.

Heard he's gone for good and won't play again

For me tonight was another game where we snatched defeat from victory by dumb rugby and poor discipline with ball in hand. Too many times have we tried to force the play in our end so when the inevitable error is made it's always in our 20. The passing tonight was for most parts so slow and laboured and very little in the way of dummy runners or running on to the ball at pace more often taking the ball stood still.
As much as I think Sneyd is a decent player he has shown very little since returning to the side. His ball control and kick options tonight were below average at best. There was no or very little direction from Sneyd tonight which was more disappointing then anything. Thought we looked sharper and more dangerous when we had Kelly & Connor in the halves to be honest.
Thought Hicks was pretty poor tonight and certainly didn't get anything off him tonight whereas Leeds got just about everything. That said even with seemingly Hicks giving Leeds majority of decisions we could have and should have won had the 17 on the field applied themselves better and not made stupid errors at crucial times and crucial areas.

48 less play the balls than leeds tells the story

Quote ="Sheephead"They say a picture paints a thousand words so.... www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/ru ... ord-202725'" A better picture is the one in the video where Watts knocks the ball on about 20metres out in the build up to the 'try'. Whether it was disallowed for the right reason or not is up for debate, but it's certainly right that it was disallowed.

Quote ="Sheephead"They say a picture paints a thousand words so.... www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/ru ... ord-202725'" A better picture is the one in the video where Watts knocks the ball on about 20metres out in the build up to the 'try'. Whether it was disallowed for the right reason or not is up for debate, but it's certainly right that it was disallowed.

We were sat 5 or 6 rows bebind Leon Pryce, so had a perfect view of Fonua and Griffin's no tries. Fonua definitely looked foot in touch and Griffin's arm appeared to go into touch as he grounded. In goal judge didn't have a better then the Ref or flagwaver and if they were dissallowed on his say so, it was the wrong decision. If FC had got a few 50/50's and rub of the green, we'd be celebrating a deserved win. Deffo win the semi.

Fonua's foot was on the line, Griffin's I couldn't see anything wrong and was stood in that corner. The in goal judge ruled it out, how he had a better view than the touch judge or ref is beyond me. Far too many mistakes from us, Leeds are nothing special and confident we'll be booking Hotels in a couple of weeks.

Watching the highlights it just looks to me that none of the refs have a clue whether is was a try or not so end up guessing. Which if that's the case is a pretty terrible way to potentially decide the outcome of a match. Highlight to me the need for video referees at all games.

Whatever happened to the rule of benefit of the doubt to the attacking team? Or is that just when certain teams score tries like that and are given. Guarantee Leeds scored either of those tries last night they are given

Jesus you're so predictably boring! It's a discussion forum, the coach talks about mindset then won't acknowledge it's a massive part of what he does/or doesn't do that underpins that in the players.
Players confidence changes, so when under pressure to win (because we'd lost 5 in 7 before last night) of course things change, have you never watched athletes make more errors, compounding them after failures previously, it's rife in sport and in the workplace.
Teamsport has loads of variables as you say, however there are knowns about how humans behave in certain circumstances and why, even those whom are very good at what they do are not exempt.

Defence is easier, it's a much simpler task comparatively from a decision making/skill POV, it's also less about you as an individual most of the time at any given moment.
You make a tackle and the attacking player invariably is heading toward you, yes trying to evade of course but more often it's far more about brute strength not skill, tackling technique and understanding what is the best type of tackle has completely gone from the game apart from a few players like Houghton. You also have assistance more often than not, there's strength in those numbers mentally. When attacking, weighing up options, catching, passing etc it's all individual, ALL of the time, no-one is there to assist you, there's someone to pass to or to catch the ball from but in that moment it is you and you alone, THAT is when confidence, pressure/high levels of stress come into play.
The mindset of not thinking about failure but about what are the primary goals, say each set of 5 minutes how to complete the tasks you're doing, reset and whatever went before is gone and you crack on to achieve your goals in the next 5 or however long you set your targets for.
it's the mindset of players from the preparation BEFORE the games, during training and how one approaches these scenarios making it automatic that you do x and not Y so you reduce the chances of failure.
The going back to basics isn't the issue here, the players can catch and pass, the problems are not mechanical or not having the mechanical ability to do x, it's mental and how players address that during games especially when under duress, THAT is the coaches job to ensure that players are mentally prepared so they can avoid scenarios where they simply make unforced errors/poor decisions/fall back to default behaviour more so than times when they're not under pressure.
Does that explain it so you can understand?