And he carries on

. You quite clearly implied that BlackNWhite had said that people who wanted to protest/boycott were not fans, he has clearly said that that's not what he thinks.

As for the rest of your drivel I really can't be bothered to respond to it any further than I already have, Rule and Kaf probably have copies of posts like your's on their office walls to remind them they don't have to try too hard to please.

sorry but I don't believe we are doing badly just through bad luck

Wigan and Bradford let the wrong players leave, and bought overrated imports to replace them. Our recruitment has been similarly shocking.

sides like Leigh/Widnes and Cas come from much smaller towns, and as the game has spread to larger places (or at least tried to) they simply are smaller fish in a bigger pond. But still Cas are out playing us.

our downfall has been our own doing, losing 2/3 of your games in a year isn't bad luck or a freak occurrence.

It's not even worth having the discussion with people who suggest things like that. I respect that they are fans of the club but it's a ridiculous point of view to hold.

Oh and for the record, I fully expected Bradford to struggle, they have a cheap-option coach that I believe to be incompetent.

I am sorry mate but life is about opinions just because people disagree it doesn't make yours or mine right or wrong ..that what life is about fans discussing problems

Are you for real?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but they aren't all equal, if you think our downfall is down to bad luck and the natural cycle of things then you are ignoring all the facts and evidence and you are wrong, simple. Coming on here and saying it doesn't make it anymore correct.

And I agree with the discussion part, but if your view is entirely fatalistic then what's the point of discussing it and seeing what can be done, what will be will be according to you.

I'm not trying to be disrespectful, I just think you're way off the mark.

you sound a very arrogant individual! it was me who clearly implied that they werent fans(in my option of course) not BlackNWhite as you stirringly put it. And cant you constructively respond to the rest of my (as you put it) drivel??

I did. They recruited badly and have a coach of dubious quality.

Sound at all familiar?


Mainly due to poor recruitment and retention. Oh - and the salary cap finally biting them hard.


Their two biggest problems of recent years are now with us. Can you tell?


We've had some chronic bad luck, particularly with injuries. No question. But it's just one factor, and we've compounded it with rank incompetence.


Not if everyone just sits back and waits they won't. Things need changing at the club if we're going to get back to where we want to be.

...something about Dykes working in a bar and what Eddie & Steveo said?... no I can't be bothered mate, sorry.

Now whilst blind devotion to FC was OK once upon a time this the twenty first century the world has moved on. No longer can sporting clubs rely on there fans blindly turning up week in week out and being served up a product that is not entertainment.

Do not be fooled anymore, this club is a business and the current owners have for a while abused there positions. They have used the fans as cash cows and in recent years they have been serving up a poor substitute, passing it off as the real deal. I can understand fans supporting the club we love to the hilt, the truth is its no longer the club we grew up with. Indeed the whole game has changed beyond belief and still old loyalties tug at the heart. I heard a supporter a few weeks ago slag off this message board for having a go about HIS club, he thought it a disgrace that anyone would criticise HIS club.

Its a firking business knubskull, like Marks and Sparks, Brit Gas or ASDA and unless they give satisfaction then we move to another business and FC should be viewed the same.

Your not my mate your total pratt!!

It's "you're a", HTH

so what ive had some beers.

least were not arguing amongst ourselves...

glad i went to work after reading what was said last night lol

frustration, we will all

when things settle.

At this moment in time ....................NO.

Im not buying one

As in we're?

Earlier in the season, in response to the same question, I wrote:

Already decided I won't be renewing mine. I paid a total of £740 this year for 2 adult and 2 student passes. We live in West Yorkshire, so every game is an away game for us. Travel across to Hull costs another £250 or so per season. Been season pass holders for years, and never begrudged a single penny spent following Hull FC. Until this season. Not enjoying it anymore. No progress. Depressed at the thought that those owning / running the club don't support it and have no passion for it (i.e. it's just a business, with profit the only motive). For what it's costing me to endure 13 home games, we could have a bloody good 14 day holiday, and be guaranteed to enjoy every minute of it. Next season I'll pay on the day, rather than hand over a hard-earned lump of cash four months in advance of the season to the muppets running our club. Then if things haven't changed, I can vote with my feet.

My answer's still the same!

Yes.

me and my 3 kids will be renewing our passes

8 of us will be too.

Yes.

No I won't be renewing my pass, I don't believe Agar has the ability to get the team to play entertaining rugby week in week out.