Oh well let's all give up till next year then peeps it's "all over" totalled humbled in our back yard by wigans 1st 13 while half of ours is sat in the stand and losing our fullback in the 1st half, ner mind I'll be ordering my pass for next year as us lemmings do.

No.

Thanks. It's an opinion based on our away form and lack of senior player availability. I love this club and have been super-impressed by our resilience in a major injury crisis, the Saints Cup game will live long in the memory as a day of incredible pride. The fact remains that we're massively up against it. I'll be there as per usual because the team's spirit and effort demands it. But my opinion is it'll require more from us than the players available can deliver to catch up. Nothing to do with "giving up", it's an opinion on where I think we'll finish.

Thanks, read it on Twitter. Good luck tomorrow.

World of Redboy said the season had long been over, so was just seeking clarification. You can't have been singling me out in that context because Karen has told you that you're in the last chance saloon on that front.

if a player attempts a drop goal, it bounces off the cross bar and regathered by a player of the same team but standing in front of the kicker is that offside? Because the Wigan player who collected it was from my view in an offside position, as were most of the wigan side at the point of the kick.

We won't make the top 4. Too many key players missing for too many games this season.

Generally when a drop goal is taken the man kicking it is usually either furthest back second furthest back so will be interesting when replay is available.

Might as well toss it off now then eh, no point turning up, fans or players, tell Radford to report to the RFL to tell them that we aren't putting out a team for the last 9 games because a couple of so called 'fans' on a rugby forum have said we're done for the year


FFS you're a defeatist bunch, why do you even bother?

I can take defeats like that. It was just dumb rugby at times that cost us, not ability or endeavour.
If Sneyd plays, we win that game.
That’s Wigan at (near) full strength, playing better than they have for a number of weeks.
We still could have won the game.

Got some big hitters to come back at the business end of the season, and young kids getting experience that will stand the club in good stead. Even if we don’t win the comp, we might have a say in who does.

Looking towards the future- all’s good

Well played Wigan, they were smarter on the night, it takes a good team to beat us these days, no excuses, they don’t bleat when players are missing, neither should we, Hull gave there all, we can ask for no more.
season over poppycock.

Seeing the tries on sky tonight, I'm baffled how hicks and the officials allowed sargisons try. To consult the touch judge furthest away was a joke.


Saying that still don't think we did enough to win and Wigan always looked more dangerous, even ifybry scored off s fluke

Wigan were a shambles coming into this game. CC loss was a joke for them and to be hammered at the mighty Wakefield last week.
SO what happens ?

listened on my laptop up here in jockland,Tomkins seemed Tomkins seemed to have a good game as ref.thanks sky ,looked forward all week to the game,wore my top all week and you play England's yawnian match on 2 channels and no hull ,Wigan game.pillocks.

last year when we beat Wigan,Shawn Wayne said "if that game had been on TVs,we would have won" well ,same applies to last night,sargensons try was doubtful,even pinkie commentating said it was no try.prity sure it was Wigan,but feel free to correct me,if I'm wrong.

it was a great game, without the weather we'd have won that. without half our side playing. Roll on the top 8 because we will be stronger for that experience. i really enjoyed it and thought the right edge looked exceptional. Faraimo is an absolute beast. Logan stood up well. Washy never lets us down and the ball to connor was sublime.
we go again.

Instead of acting like an idiot, why don't you come up with a compelling reason you think we will make the top 4?

No one but you has said we should throw in the towel but the reality of the situation is we're down 7 or 8 players and doing it tough. I'm sure you'll agree that radford and the youngsters he's developing have done an amazing job for us even to be near the top 4 given the season we've endured with injuries but the cold, hard facts are that if the teams above us win their games in hand we'll be 12 points behind saints, 8 behind wigan, 6 behind cas and 4 behind wire. That's a lot of ground to make up and we're reliant on those teams losing enough games for us to be even in with a shout. Difficult at the best of times but a really tough ask with the injuries we have and when players are likely yo be back.

Another thing to bear in mind is we've yet to win a game away from the Kcom against any of the current top 8 (still a couple to play) and also lost away against 2 of the current bottom 4 so it doesn't seem likely we'll go on a long winning run to me.

Just my opinion of course and I'll carry on watching and enjoying games but it doesn't alter my opinion that we'll finish between 5th and 7th this season and I see no point talking the prospects up just so I can have a dig when we don't achieve

Catching Saints - impossible
Catching Wigan or Cas - very difficult

Catching Warrington - realistic, especially if they lose to Wakey today. If they did, that would mean by merely matching their results for rest of season and beating them in Super 8s, we would probably finish above them.


That is entirely realistic but could really do with them losing today.

We were down on numbers and there was still not a lot in it last night.
Its small margins.
I don't think its season over, when we get troops back we'll be stronger.
We are able to beat any team home or away when we are on it, and that's what they will have to be, and do, to get to Old Trafford.
They've set the Grand final as their key objective. I think they'll treat it like knock out football and i'm looking forward to the ride. We just need to get our strongest side out there more and we'll have a real chance.
Last nights loss made it harder, but its still do-able.

I would like to see Wigan’s first try again.
Looked like he bounced it in touch from the East Stand ?

Here in lay the difference in the officiating of the game when its not a Sky game.

Wigans fist try - debatable - Ref asks the touch judge (15 yards further up field from the incident) rather than the in goal official (in line with dead ball line) and awards try

First attack of second half, Kelly kicks through an goes to ground the ball. Not even a discussion with any other official deemed no try.

Wigans winning score, as you mention, has a big suggestion of off side.

Come to think of it, the penalty which Wigan equalised with would be interesting to watch back. It was a free play to wigan but they also knocked on prior to the Hull player dropping on the ball.

If the VR is there, there is (or shouldnt be) any debate.

The penalty was dumb play by paea who knew he was offside

5 games left before the split. 4 against teams below us. Not being presumptuous but lets say we get 4 wins. We also have St's at home, let say we lose that. 8 points.

Super 8's, we all start taking points off each other.

We need to finish 4th after another TWELVE games.

By the start of the 8's we should have our first choice 7 and winger back, A short while later we should have our best meter making centre back. Couple that with the return of Manu / Westerman, I see reasons to be positive.

Not wanting to wish injury on any player, but our squad has been particularly hit this season. Who's to say another club will not go through a bad run of injuries?

Paea actually stood off the ball, its was anything player who dropped on it.

But, as mentioned, the ball had come loose from a Wigan knock on and ended the free play. Should have been a scrum wigan for me.

Probably asking about offside - he was having problems with the "technology".