Still think we should persevere with Rankin off the bench to replace Houghton.
Together with Shaul they are the only ones capable of Backing up runners down the middle and the pace to beat a defence.
That said until we start to dominate in the pack we are going backwards fast just like last season

Rankin spelling hooker or our centre solution?

Pryce is second behind Paea in player rankings so far IMO. Top quality player. As for Sneyd someone needs to tell him to relax a bit and stop trying too hard. He can kick better than he has been and despite all of the claims that he's 'laid back' he needs to focus on doing the basics well. That said our pack is not strong enough to regularly dominate.

Wigan are crap at the moment and yes possibly worst team since noble era. Hull could and perhaps should have won. We played about the same last week but came up against a Cas team that could play. It was good to play another crap team so that we had a chance of winning.

Just got in from work - so what did i miss?

Fair comment, nohalfbacks.

Nothing has changed, a poor wigan team there for the taking and dumb players making dumb choices

Still no pace in the squad apart from lancaster who didnt get much chance,
why didnt hadley play in the second half?

Ellis looks injured still

Ellis was huffing and puffing all night. He looked unfit to me.

Even on the bench? Lol

He went off after 20 odd minutes and didnt come on again until the last 10

But yes doesnt look 100%

Hadley still has a groin injury
Ellis is still injured and wouldn't normally be playing.Is having injections into rib area.

Great summary, I have nothing to add other than just reaffirm how crap Wigan were. Loads of chuntering from their fans on the way back to the car. Glad I went and convinced we will gel at some point just hope it's SOON. COYH

Looking at the team from last night Yeaman, Green, Watts, Bowden, Hadley, and Feka ain't good enough. Our props are painfully slow at the play the ball apart from Paea. I've said since pre season we'll be in the bottom 4 and right now it'll be bottom 2 imo.

Picture us going into next season with Taylor, Watts, Bowden, Green and BTW as our props. Would go okay in the Championship I suppose.

I thought Watts (other than THAT pass) and Bowden went well last night.

Hull never really played on Wigan's nerves last night which was surprising. Our confidence looks shot and whilst we should have scored far more points from the possession we had, we weren't given much to worry about defensively.

It was all a bit one out from Hull I thought. If you'd have moved the ball around a bit more there was plenty of space. Cas hit the flanks time and again last week against us and killed us but the Hull centres/wings didn't see much ball.

Two nervous sides on show IMO.

It has been for the last two years. Clueless on attack.

Lets be honest here, yes Wigan were there for the taking and its not the best Wigan side I have seen but they were almost full strength and some credit has to be given to our defence ,Ellis may well not be fully fit but some of his tackling was ferocious and I bet the Wigan players new he was there. Our offence is letting us down and we lack that spark and our kicking game again was poor.After 60 mins Wigan looked shot and smarter play from us and we would have got the win.Still giving penalties away on 4/5 tackle and its criminal.I dont understand the criticism of Paleasenia I thought he was one of our best forwards last nigh along with Thompson.Without stating the obvious we need to start winning or we will run out of games before we know it.I cannot fault our effort last night but we have to build on that and we must show more flair

Sorry I didn't mean just based on last nights performances from the players I named I meant they aren't good enough to be 3 of our starting 4 props for the season.

Did yeaman play the full game? 4 tackles, 4 missed tackles and 7 hit ups for a total of 41m according to the SL website. Might as we have stayed at home

Quite.

Although he did emerge into the spotlight to scream at Watts in a temper at the end. Perhaps should keep schtum and start polishing his black pot.

Watts should never have been put in that position by Houghton, but he seems to be immune from criticism.

Move the ball around? What kind of dark art is that?! We haven't passed the ball around for 7 years and we aren't starting now

Or centres are too slow so it wouldn't make any difference

Quiet amusing when we started chanting; Pass the ball, Pass the ball, pass the ball. Says it all really. One man rugby.

And once it hits Yeaman it will just stop dead anyway.....

Yeaman certainly is finished it now. he's good defensively, but offers nothing in offence. But who do you replace him with?

Back line sis soooo slooooow its unbelievable. Do we start putting in the faster youngsters?

Sneyd needs to attack the line more and stop being a shoveller ... hope he's not playing to a game plan because if he is its ruining his game. He show glimpses of what he an do second half last night.
OFC missing the touch kick was just shocking ..

And finally - that's two games where a prop has ended up with the ball at the end when we could have been in a winning position... WTF... I really hope we can lean from this - Radford needs to show this bit on loop until it sinks in that it was match losing play... not really Wattsy's fault - he shouldn't even of had it...

As an outsider I can't get my head round what happened with Crooks. He looked a top young talent but like many do he suffered a bit of a dip. He needed managing through that but seemed to be dumped.

I could be way off and it could have been an attitude thing but he seems the type of centre you guys need. I'd actually like to see us move for him at some point if he doesn't get picked in the first team at Parramatta.