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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"I only thought bobby & harry are robs lads? Oh & young George.'"
Ryan is Matty Wilsons lad.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"Nothing to do with this but I've been told Ryan Wilson & Alex Starling have been sacked by the club.'"
It's in the hdm this morning pal , both have been released with a year left on their contracts . Any idea why ?
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"It's in the hdm this morning pal , both have been released with a year left on their contracts . Any idea why ?'"
I will txt you bud.
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| If they have done something bad the club are covering it up, by saying that they didn't figure in Radfords long term plans. Both were rated highly at one point, but both are 20 now so can't play in the 19's and have been overtaken by progress of other younger players.
Good source by the way Easthull fc fan.
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| Wouldn't be surprised to see them sign across the river tbh . Never seen them play but was rated highly by the club not so long ago
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| Both 20 now, so you would have thought they would have more of an impact, although saying that if you look at Green and Shaul as good examples of players who don't make it straight away and come back at a later age, so maybe there is still time for them to make SL players.
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| Both in the First team, so wonder if they will promote two other young players to the first team, i'd imagine Brad fash would be one.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Both in the First team, so wonder if they will promote two other young players to the first team, i'd imagine Brad fash would be one.'"
I find it strange they are told not to bother training and look elsewhere mid contract. They haven't had any opportunity to perform. They were both stand out players for 19 with Wilson been captain. At 19's they played out of position which didn't help as well. I don't think it's a salary cap issue but it's a strange one. They have talent and I don't think it's a case of others been better. I've heard that both were surprised and shocked at the decision. From a development point I view it's great opportunities for them. They wouldn't play much with first team and would be used every now and again on loan. Something needs looking at for players around this age. Bring back the A team.
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| Wilson linked to Doncaster in the R L Express yesterday .
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| It's all in the HDM article.
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| Quote ="ccs"It's all in the HDM article.'"
Wilson has left Hull and going to Donny. Starling staying at Hull and going to Donny as a dual reg. Will not train or be apart or the Hull yet up I've been told. Both offered to leave but chose different options I believe.
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| Quote ="jehull" Bring back the A team.'"
There's a bit about the option of an under-23s/A-team set up in the policy document. I don't think the clubs will be keen, simply due to the costs. You're looking at £200k or more to run a team at that level, based on pretty meagre pay that'd make those players effectively part-time anyway - so maybe they're better off playing in the Championship.
And I don't think the costs would be greatly mitigated by gate receipts - certainly it wouldn't be cost-effective or maybe even practical to open up the KC.
All that said, the leap from 19s to SL is big - some make it, but the proportion that make it to the fringes of SL squads and no further does seem high.
I'd have liked to have seen fewer academies, allowing each to running one extra, older team. With central funding planned of just £168k, and not every club having a stake in the proposed system, that seems unlikely.
And tbh, it's a fair bit of money to maybe only retain the odd player, now and again.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"There's a bit about the option of an under-23s/A-team set up in the policy document. I don't think the clubs will be keen, simply due to the costs. You're looking at £200k or more to run a team at that level, based on pretty meagre pay that'd make those players effectively part-time anyway - so maybe they're better off playing in the Championship.
And I don't think the costs would be greatly mitigated by gate receipts - certainly it wouldn't be cost-effective or maybe even practical to open up the KC.
All that said, the leap from 19s to SL is big - some make it, but the proportion that make it to the fringes of SL squads and no further does seem high.
I'd have liked to have seen fewer academies, allowing each to running one extra, older team. With central funding planned of just £168k, and not every club having a stake in the proposed system, that seems unlikely.
And tbh, it's a fair bit of money to maybe only retain the odd player, now and again.'"
This is maybe were clubs could work together and enter joint under 23/A-teams, Rovers and Hull could enter a team, Leeds/ Bradford etc.
Ok they would be lots of things to be worked out, but there has to be a better system than DR, which just isn't working.
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| Quote ="Dave K."This is maybe were clubs could work together and enter joint under 23/A-teams, Rovers and Hull could enter a team, Leeds/ Bradford etc.
Ok they would be lots of things to be worked out, but there has to be a better system than DR, which just isn't working.'"
Rovers and Hull did look into some sort of link-up, but there's a natural tension there, of course. Which is made worse by the rivalry and merger-fear. Maybe if you joined up with Cas at that level, us with Wakefield or something like that? But I guess what you'd gain in 'trust', you'd lose on logistics.
The pyramid needs a stronger/wider/better supported base in the community game, then a sharper focus higher up, IMO.
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| Quote ="Dave K."This is maybe were clubs could work together and enter joint under 23/A-teams, Rovers and Hull could enter a team, Leeds/ Bradford etc.
Ok they would be lots of things to be worked out, but there has to be a better system than DR, which just isn't working.'"
With the talent that there is Hull there should be a semi-professional team in the lower league. Loads at Donny from Hull and a lot of top players that are KR & FC cast offs that are good enough. Anyone fancying chipping in? Haha
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| Quote ="jehull"Wilson has left Hull and going to Donny. Starling staying at Hull and going to Donny as a dual reg. Will not train or be apart or the Hull yet up I've been told. Both offered to leave but chose different options I believe.'" Quote ="Club website"Meanwhile, the club have also confirmed that young squad members Alex Starling and Ryan Wilson have been released from their contracts to enable them to join Doncaster RL.'"
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| Do Doncaster have any junior RL?
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Sky bet thinks the above with London 1000/1
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Giants
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Bulls position assumes 4 point deduction and losing Carvell
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London.
No one else seems to be saying this but if Radford stays they go.
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| Quote ="meatpaste"Huddersfield
Saints
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Salford
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Wakefield
Hull
London.
No one else seems to be saying this but if Radford stays they go.'"
There is a reason that no one else is saying it, it won't happen, would could finish outside the 8, but won't be near the bottom 2.
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Sky bet thinks the above with London 1000/1'"
Worth having a quid on rovers with the recruiting they have done...........
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| Quote ="Dave K."There is a reason that no one else is saying it, it won't happen, would could finish outside the 8, but won't be near the bottom 2.'"
It happened in 2008 with arguably a better team and coach and in 2009 only Salford and Crusaders finished below you again with a better team/coach.
The fixtures may well not help with the vast majority of your home games played before June. If you get off to a bad start things can snowball.
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| Quote ="meatpaste"Huddersfield
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Money where your mouth is then £100 Radford stays and Hull FC do not finish in bottom two
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