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| Quote ="Bet Lynch"You just publicly banned an FC poster on your board because you claim he winds people up & then you come on here and post that
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Cheers Bet, one law for one as the saying goes. I wasn`t even winding them up either, I was getting there though.
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| Quote ="lewis_hullfc"would like to see briscoe stay but should Pearson offer mega money to make that happen? imo no wingers are easy to come by not like half backs as we have seen and we are going to need all the money we have to try temp some 1 to the kc next year. for me it should not be about money and i would like for some 1 to actually want to come to hull without the money issue but we live in the real world and people are greedy and want every cent possible.'"
I agree, Wing is a 'luxury' position, the finishing touches to a team that already has strong halves, hooker, full back and pack.
Tom's a great player, but we can't throw stupid money in to keeping him when we still don't have a quality no7 after all these years.
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| Quote ="Tingley Rhino"When will you learn, success can not be bought, Leeds tried it under Douglas Laughton and almost went bankrupt, Leeds have a dozen players who could move for more money, the reason they don't is because they are local lads that want to play together and win trophy's. Would you change job just for a wage rise if you we're happy with your lot enjoying your days work with you mates. The only way forward is to bring through and develop the youngsters the problem for most clubs is its a long term plan and some clubs have only a short term plan. Hull have some good young kids coming through like Green and line ham and Crooks for example but not enough. What you need is some stability with the spine of the team, 6,7,9,13 for example or to get players tied up on longer term contacts like Leeds do. Hull have spent too much money on over priced injury prone Aussies and Shaun Longs to try and fix their half back problems over the years and its back fired. Gareth Ellis could be another example of an injury prone player who's best days are behind him, dispute what he says Leeds would have offered him a lot lower short term contract and he goes to hull for the money and the longer term contract, like Adrian Morley did at Wire. The wire gamble paid off but will the Hull one ?'"
I totally agree with this, you make some very valid points mate, good post.
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| Quote ="UllFC"I agree, Wing is a 'luxury' position, the finishing touches to a team that already has strong halves, hooker, full back and pack.
Tom's a great player, but we can't throw stupid money in to keeping him when we still don't have a quality no7 after all these years.'"
I was thinking last night, and I can't recall having a real quality 7 at any point we've played at the KC, am I forgetting someone?
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| It's a shame that another quality player is going to give the NRL a go.
We don't really have enough quality players in the SL but unfortunatly I saw this coming a mile away as it was obvious what would happen as soon as it became clear just how much cash the NRL clubs were going to have.
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| [url=http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/rugby_league/4782585/Tom-Briscoe-quits-Blighty-to-make-long-awaited-move-Down-Under.htmlThe Sun[/url have ran pretty much the same story, wether that makes you believe it more or less I am unsure!
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| You can`t blame the kid for grabbing his big chance in the NRL. He has been outstanding for us and he can only get better over there. He has been loyal to us over the years, he could have gone before but decided to wait a while. We obviously need to look at our salary cap if we are going to hang onto our talented youngsters in future.
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| Quote ="The Judge"We obviously need to look at our salary cap if we are going to hang onto our talented youngsters in future.'"
The problem is, you can't put a value in £/$'s of the opportunity for someone early-mid 20's with no huge family comittments to move to Australia, to do exactly what they're doing now, but where the weather is better, the game is bigger etc. etc.
To sort the salary cap out we need to drop to 12 sustainable teams, we need a governing body that can secure meaningful and valuable sponsorship, and we need Sky to give us something better than Eddie and Stevo commentating, we also need better officials and better run clubs.
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| well if owt will make Tom think twice then this should [urlhttp://www.theage.com.au/sport/probe-finds-widespread-use-of-drugs-in-sport-crime-links-20130207-2dzw1.html[/url
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| Quote ="The Judge"Cheers Bet, one law for one as the saying goes. I wasn`t even winding them up either, I was getting there though.
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no you were just been a boring
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"no you were just been a boring friend'"
I'm sure he was only 'arvin a laugh....
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Quote ="Sheldon"It's not about money but if it was I'd pay a lot to keep him.'"
So would I. One of the most exciting players in the SL, definitely in our team. He has pure quality and well over 100 SL games, all at the age of 22.'"
If it was a money decision I'd let O'Meley, Galea, Seymour, McDonnell, Holdsworth and Heremaia go to keep him.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"If it was a money decision I'd let O'Meley, Galea, Seymour, McDonnell, Holdsworth and Heremaia go to keep him.'"
and play whom in their positions?
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| Quote ="Standee"and play whom in their positions?'"
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| Quote ="Standee"The problem is, you can't put a value in £/$'s of the opportunity for someone early-mid 20's with no huge family comittments to move to Australia, to do exactly what they're doing now, but where the weather is better, the game is bigger etc. etc.
To sort the salary cap out we need to drop to 12 sustainable teams, we need a governing body that can secure meaningful and valuable sponsorship, and we need Sky to give us something better than Eddie and Stevo commentating, we also need better officials and better run clubs.'"
In Tom`s shoes I would be off as well, as you say the whole Aussie environment can`t be bettered.
By dropping to 12 teams means realistically that London and Catalan have to go?
London cannot be sustained, surely, on their pitiful home attendances and their away following, although both kids are ok, bring nothing to other clubs.
Catalan, whilst boasting fantastic conditions both weather wise and culturaly are expensive and also bring nothing to the away games either.
The time has come to get more ruthless and make some important decisions regarding these clubs. Or are the RFL now looking even further afield at expanding our heartland game into the nether regions?
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| Quote ="The Judge"In Tom`s shoes I would be off as well, as you say the whole Aussie environment can`t be bettered.
By dropping to 12 teams means realistically that London and Catalan have to go?'"
You'd seriously drop one of the competitions best teams?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"If it was a money decision I'd let O'Meley, Galea, Seymour, McDonnell, Holdsworth and Heremaia go to keep him.'"
and that would achieve? don't talk b*llocks he is quality but wingers are an easy fix and if u give them the ball in space they usually finish we have to focus on having the team to put these wingers in the position to score and that comes from the quality in the halves and the pack. and using a big chunk of salary on a winger although he is quality would be criminal imo
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| Quote ="Kosh"You'd seriously drop one of the competitions best teams?'"
I would. And the savings that the RFL make from not funding the Catalans away expenses will go to help the clubs that do bring more to the table.
As far as funding the London team to any extent then I have no knowledge of such but wager that they funded by the RFL.
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| BIG MONEY WASTED ON WINGERS FOR US SHOULD BE A THING OF THE PAST...BEN COCKAYNE DID REALLY WELL FOR WAKEY LAST YEAR AND I BET HE'S ON PEANUTS COMPARED TO BRISCOE.....
LINEHAM IN, BRISCOE OUT...AND SAVE A SHED LOD OF CASH IN THE PROCESS
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| Quote ="lewis_hullfc"Quote ="Sheldon"If it was a money decision I'd let O'Meley, Galea, Seymour, McDonnell, Holdsworth and Heremaia go to keep him.'"
and that would achieve? don't talk b*llocks he is quality but wingers are an easy fix and if u give them the ball in space they usually finish we have to focus on having the team to put these wingers in the position to score and that comes from the quality in the halves and the pack. and using a big chunk of salary on a winger although he is quality would be criminal imo
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I think your missing my point, I'd try and keep young talented British players than sign overseas players.
If all clubs had have made the same commitment we'd still have Ashton, Tomkins, Eastmond in our game rather than some of the weak overseas players we have now.
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| Broughton back to Hull?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"I think your missing my point, I'd try and keep young talented British players than sign overseas players.
If all clubs had have made the same commitment we'd still have Ashton, Tomkins, Eastmond in our game rather than some of the mickey weak overseas players we have now.'"
yep sorry pal missed your point i see were your coming from but its hard to get a good team without signing Aussies and kiwis. young English talent is coming through at only a few teams at the moment if everyone had the spine of the team like Leeds then i see were your coming from. but that will take years for every team to build there team to that level and until that time comes this is how it will be. money talks nowadays and we would never compete with the nrl or union when it comes down to cash unfortunately so if we do lose players there's not much the clubs can do.
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| Quote ="The Judge"I would.'"
Thank feck you have no input then. Utterly bonkers idea.
Quote ="The Judge"And the savings that the RFL make from not funding the Catalans away expenses will go to help the clubs that do bring more to the table.'"
How much would it save, exactly? Or even roughly?
How many clubs bring 'more to the table' than one of the best sides in the competition. And don't start the pointless whining about away fans, either. If cubs can't attract enough home fans to survive then missing out on some away fans for one game a season won't make any difference.
Quote ="The Judge"As far as funding the London team to any extent then I have no knowledge of such but wager that they funded by the RFL.'"
Then you'd be wrong, like the vast majority of flat-cappers.
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| Quote ="The Judge"I would. And the savings that the RFL make from not funding the Catalans away expenses will go to help the clubs that do bring more to the table.
As far as funding the London team to any extent then I have no knowledge of such but wager that they funded by the RFL.'"
And presumably these "away" fans from France and London we dont get would bring in more income than what Sky gives us because its not just an M62 competition?
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