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| Its amazing how 1 single guy can rip out the passion and heart from so many fans.
The feelings towards him seem to be turning from dislike to genuine hatred and its completely understandable as the clueless fool is full of lies and would do anything at all to stay in the job.
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| I don't hate him, I don't dislike him as I don't personally know him. But I do not think he is the man for the job. He's had long enough, but then again part of me thinks the players seem to have genuine respect for him what if (and I know it's a big IF) what if he has been held back and we can kick on now?
I would love to see some big signings for next year, something to give us some hope.
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| Quote ="Pal of Mine"But I do not think he is the man for the job. He's had long enough, but then again part of me thinks the players seem to have genuine respect for him what i'" I would love to be a senior player, playing under Agar too as you know that no matter how you perform you are going to play and probably be rewarded with a new contract.
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| I understand what you are saying, but maybe I'm being naive when I think professionals want to win. If you don't want to win you should play for fun. Think I'm just too deflated about it all.
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| Quote ="Pal of Mine"I don't hate him, I don't dislike him as I don't personally know him. But I do not think he is the man for the job. He's had long enough, but then again part of me thinks the players seem to have genuine respect for him what if (and I know it's a big IF) what if he has been held back and we can kick on now?
I would love to see some big signings for next year, something to give us some hope.'"
I bwlieve that most supporters will agree with the above. Richard Agar has in my opinion had his chance and changes have to be made. Many Hull supporters in my opinion seem to be of the same view.
I hope that Mr Pearson looks @ this site, or if not one of the management and then updates him. He must take action quickly. If not he will miss the boat and take a financial hit.
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| i dont hate or dislike the man,i just know that if he continues as coach we will see the same style of rugby and the same league position and same general depression around the club...so lets just say thanks for your efforts,good luck and goodbye..
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"Its amazing how 1 single guy can rip out the passion and heart from so many fans.
The feelings towards him seem to be turning from dislike to genuine hatred and its completely understandable as the clueless fool is full of lies and would do anything at all to stay in the job.'"
Unnecessarily harsh IMO. We, [uthe club[/u, have elected to legally contract his services for almost 5 seasons in total, from May 2008 to November 2012. He's on good money and works hard. If he's not up to delivering the goods, the club should not have renewed his contract last April. In his position, with alternative employment at a large club on good money unlikely to be available, I'd be doing exactly what he is doing, ie continuing to work hard and citing any excuse possible as mitigating factors to underdelivery on the pitch - referees, injuries, 5 day turnarounds, travelling to Edinburgh etc. The feck-ups are ours in in a) extending in his contract and b) not rectifying a). It's resulted in the ridiculous scenario of the club's supporters, having not witnessed a play-off win since 2007, hoping we don't achieve it this season so we can hasten a regime change.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"Its amazing how 1 single guy can rip out the passion and heart from so many fans.
The feelings towards him seem to be turning from dislike to genuine hatred and its completely understandable as the clueless fool is full of lies and would do anything at all to stay in the job.'"
I don't hate him. I don't even know him FFS. I hate what he's done to the club, and I get angry with him, but anyone who genuinely [ihates[/i him needs to get a grip IMO.
What lies has he told BTW? And I mean genuine falsehoods, not numpty pronouncements, flannel, and general stuff you may disagree with?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"He's on good money and works hard.'" How do you know he works hard ? I mean the guy has already stated that he doesn't prepare for individual teams and leaves all of the video work to Andy Last.
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| I definitely do not hate him....fliping 'eck we are talking about a rugby coach here not Ian Brady for heavens sake
He appears to be an average chap the problem is he is failing at his job and needs to be replaced, if he is ...I would genuinely wish him luck for the future.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"How do you know he works hard ? I mean the guy has already stated that he doesn't prepare for individual teams and leaves all of the video work to Andy Last.'"
Fair enough, but we hear a lot from Smailes/Murdock etc about how hard he works - maybe they're not that objective, but of all the criticism levelled at him, I've not heard about him sitting at home watching Die Hard 2 in his underpants and eating pickled onion Monster Munch when he should be at training.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"Its amazing how 1 single guy can rip out the passion and heart from so many fans.
The feelings towards him seem to be turning from dislike to genuine hatred and its completely understandable as the clueless fool is full of lies and would do anything at all to stay in the job.'"
If anybody's feelings are genuine hatred then it says more about them imo. Richard Agar is a human being trying to do a job, whether he's up to that job is another thing but to think people hate him because despite trying he's not good enough is a bit OTT for me.
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| Quote ="Suzie"If anybody's feelings are genuine hatred then it says more about them imo. Richard Agar is a human being trying to do a job, whether he's up to that job is another thing but to think people hate him because despite trying he's not good enough is a bit OTT for me.'"
Quite.
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| Quote ="Suzie"If anybody's feelings are genuine hatred then it says more about them imo. Richard Agar is a human being trying to do a job, whether he's up to that job is another thing but to think people hate him because despite trying he's not good enough is a bit OTT for me.'"
Well said.
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| Quote ="Suzie"If anybody's feelings are genuine hatred then it says more about them imo. Richard Agar is a human being trying to do a job, whether he's up to that job is another thing but to think people hate him because despite trying he's not good enough is a bit OTT for me.'"
I do not hate the man and I suspect most fans have a similar opinion. He is however, as you rightly stated not good enough. He has in my view upset a lot of supporters over the past few years, in one way or another and many have had enough and the thought that he maybe in charge next season is hard to digest.
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| Quote ="edinburgh yorkie"last season i was voted supporter of the year,on account of making the 500 mile round trip for every home game.i had a season pass,and a reserved seat in the east stand.but this year,i have not bothered to renew my pass,but i watch hfc on tele,and listen to the away games on my laptop.if agar goes,i just might start making the journey again,to watch the team i have supported since i was in short pants,and i am now a spot kick off 72,and will give a lot of thought asto wether i start making the journey again next season.'"
Sad when agar is turning away supporters like this. Maybe you should write a personal letter to AP
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"Its amazing how 1 single guy can rip out the passion and heart from so many fans.
The feelings towards him seem to be turning from dislike to genuine hatred and its completely understandable as the clueless fool is full of lies and would do anything at all to stay in the job.'"
I don't hate him. he's just a truly shiite coach and should feck off ASAP
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| I just have this constant sinking feeling about the club now
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"Its amazing how 1 single guy can rip out the passion and heart from so many fans.
The feelings towards him seem to be turning from dislike to genuine hatred and its completely understandable as the clueless fool is full of lies and would do anything at all to stay in the job.'"
amazing what one man has done? (having said that, that one man can take the rest of the coaching team with him, all need to go)
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| I don,t hate the coach, never could & can understand why he won,t walk away(Who on these forums would chuck a job where they are massively overpaid for their talents).My plea is to the club to wake up & smell the coffee & get our GREAT club back where we know we belong.
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| Quote ="sutton park b+w"I don,t hate the coach, never could & can understand =#0000FFwhy he won,t walk away(Who on these forums would chuck a job where they are massively overpaid for their talents).My plea is to the club to wake up & smell the coffee & get our GREAT club back where we know we belong.'"
It's a fair point you make, some people seem to think he can just walk away and into another well paid Super League coaching job.
Unfortunately, not only from his point of view, but ours too, it's not that easy.
Just look at the likes of Darryl Powell and Karl Harrison, who were Super League coaches and now no one will touch them with a barge pole.
Even a very successful Coach like Noble is not guaranteed a job.
He probably still believes he can become a successful Super League coach and we may be his only chance to prove it.
I don't hate him either, I feel sorry for him in a way. I feel more sorry for us though.
It's up to AP to make the decision the majority of the fans want, not Agar.
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| I have been going to watch FC since the late 1970's but made the decision at the end of last season that I would not go again or spend any money at the club until Agar is no longer in charge, there were five of us that made the same decision. I used the saved money to fund Sky Sports and HD. A much better investment than watching 80 mins of boring rugby with no tactics or interchange policies etc. etc. etc.
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| Quote ="mikey471"I have been going to watch FC since the late 1970's but made the decision at the end of last season that I would not go again or spend any money at the club until Agar is no longer in charge, there were five of us that made the same decision. I used the saved money to fund Sky Sports and HD. A much better investment than watching 80 mins of boring rugby with no tactics or interchange policies etc. etc. etc.'"
So if Agar goes, will you bin Sky Sports and start going to Hull again?
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| Quote ="GJJ 79"It's a fair point you make, some people seem to think he can just walk away and into another well paid Super League coaching job.
Unfortunately, not only from his point of view, but ours too, it's not that easy.
Just look at the likes of Darryl Powell and Karl Harrison, who were Super League coaches and now no one will touch them with a barge pole.
Even a very successful Coach like Noble is not guaranteed a job.
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Probably cos they're shiiite at coaching. If Agar walks out or gets the boot and no club offers him a job, then clearly it's obvious he's not good enough! Maybe he might just take the hint and change career direction.
Did i read that Andy Last does all the oppo video work etc? A failed hooker who we took on cos he was a 'local load' - jeez there is no wonder we're crap!
Said it for the last 2 seasons, get rid of the lot and start again. Give an Aussie coach a the chance to bring in his own backroom staff.
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