I agree, but..........................

Didnt player power get Kear sacked??

Maybe so mate,but it is still wrong,even if I do contradict myself now and say I wish it would work.

You are quite right a coach doesn't tell players to knock on and miss tackles etc, however if a coach see's this happening all the time (and surely he must be seeing it) it is his job to iron the problem out. He also needs to be able to bring the best out of players like other coaches seem able to do.
The problem is we don't see any evidence of this anywhere the players consistently play badly and i cannot say there is anyone who Agar is getting the best out of. The players that seem to be doing the business consitently for me are Manu/Meley/Fitz/Whiting/Moa are proving the exception amongst the side and that is probably down to their own personal pride than anything the coach is doing.

What is it now 2 wins in 7 since he signed his new contract?

yep i agree, but he doesnt have the balls to drop anyone or change things when they aint working, plan A only, one dimensional, i just hope the board see this sooner rather than later and get rid, but i just cant see it.

Strange one this !. I thought his last club was York and not Brisbane Broncos.

Agree!
It would seem that the board are only concerned with the business end of things. So that is were the supporters need to take action if we are to have any effect.
They would have to way up which is going to be the biggest loss to them.

Going back a bit (and not to sure, but) wasn't the deal with the gate numbers an issue? I think that if the gate was over 7500, there was not a lot of profit from above that number.

Phew...
lest we forget that KH and co are who has made this club an example to behold amongst SL clubs, if they go the club will suffer badly.
RA is a good coach with a great vision but a winning team is not built in one season , look at all the big hitters it takes 2/3 seasons to craft the way forward and this term KH & RA started again.. give them time , give them time the big picture will be worth waiting for !!

so is the club not a stable commodity / business for the first time in a long while???
Do you think that the faces from the NRL only come here for the big pay packets or did you miss what MO and CF do week in week out??
I think you do our clubs infrastructure and management an injustice

Assuming you are a Hull fan and not a pathetic troll.....

In 2005 we won the cup. Backed it up with a GF appearence. From there on in we have gone backwards at an alarming rate. Off the pitch I will grant you all is well, but the main stay of this business is on the pitch. We bought into the new signings and supported players being turfed out in the hope of a better future. We we actually have is the same old same old. Except this time it will take far far more than a few months of constant publicity from Longy, Fitz and CO to make alot of people buy into it next season.

Rome was not built in a day, and it certainly wasn't fully built in 2006 but it has taken a matter of weeks in comparison to destroy the good work carried out from 2000 to 2006 and the one constant throughout that period is the coaching set up from Agar down.

Off the field great, on the field awful.

If we carry on like this on the field the off field side of the business will suffer.

Just imagine how much money the club could make if we had a good side the last 3 years, making the play offs etc.

The club are only stable because th eloyal fans turn up week in, week out and spend their hard earned in the club shop despite the dross on the pitch. Won't last forever though so I hope kath's vision takes this into account

We have got things right off the field, which only emphasis the problems on it. Agar and co have nothing to worry about whatsoever other then putting out a competitive side. A full salary cap, fantastic facilities and not a worry in the world, I can think of plenty of other SL coaches who would love to be in his position. Talk about being in a comfort zone!

Also, our decent starts to seasons under Agar also paint a telling picture. We do okay early doors when every team are finding their feet. Problem is, when they do find their feet we see no improvement whatsoever, it really is embarrassing now.

The club have got things right off the field without a doubt, although I think there short sightedness in appointing Agar threatens to undo all the good work, I believe the board feel that the fans will still turn up regardless of performances on the field, thats why we are stuck with Dick in charge.

And your evidence for this is... what, exactly?

Just need to look at Wire. Last season conceeding point galore under Lowes. They bring in a quality coach and the rest is history. Cup winners and going well in the league. This excuse about not being his team to me is utter rubbish.

Come on Wolfie, no need for the new user name

The players all rate him

Maybe he's agar's optician

We're never going to be as good as wire with the players we have however we should be a hell of a lot better than we are, even with injuries

atkins and myler were brought in by smith on[u huge [/utransfer fees.that's the difference,having a benefactor prepared to splash his own money.

Just got himself another lifeline with Moore going. No doubt if results continue to be poor the lack of an assistant will be rolled out along with Us Injuries.

Agar has great vision!!! Haha that's class!!. a good coach takes 2-3 seasons to get it right.. Haha that's even better!! embarrassing watching badly trained, badly tactically instructed and badly motivated players week in week out. Continually picking the same under performers coz he hasn't the balls or the brains to change it. 5 up the middle and a poor kick is probably the only tactic Agar knows. if this is the way its gotta be maybe the kids should play, probably lose a lot more but at least they would try!!. we could probably get a coach from 8id lower league wi more balls that would do a better job than Agar aswell.

Specsavers for me then