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| Quote ="Kosh"Hall had a better game than both Thorman and G Horne. He was arguably no worse than Yeaman and certainly had more involvement in the game.'" hall was as bad as the players you mentioned, but has he outshone them in previous games this season, I think some people on here must watch another game to me, in my opinion and you have voiced yours which your entightled too, craig hall will never make it in superleague.
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| Quote ="Kosh"This is what happens when you have a safety-first attitude and an over-reliance on error stats.
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I totally accept Hall offers an attacking threat, but this, IMO, is outweighed by his error rate and poor, sometimes terrible, decision-making. This is not the wholly unreasonable viewpoint you and Baldy like to suggest it is. FWIW I wouldn't drop him either given we have no backs left, but he wouldn't be in my 17 if everyone was fit/available and neither would there be a queue of clubs trying to steal him away from us if he were OOC this year.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Errrrr Hall to Wing which he can cover better than F/B and Reardon at F/B...which he is.'" what makes you think he can cover wing better than full back, full back and wingers have a very similar job nowadays, I just wish the kid could beef up and make a centre cos that's his only hope, not strong enough at the moment to even bring the water on.
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| Quote ="shagnasty"I think some people on here must watch another game to me'"
I certainly seem to have done.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I totally accept Hall offers an attacking threat, but this, IMO, is outweighed by his error rate and poor, sometimes terrible, decision-making.'"
Quote ="Kosh"This is what happens when you have a safety-first attitude and an over-reliance on error stats.
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Quote ="Mrs Barista"This is not the wholly unreasonable viewpoint you and Baldy like to suggest it is.'"
I don't think it's wholly unreasonable. I just think that the reasons are rubbish.
Quote ="Mrs Barista"FWIW I wouldn't drop him either given we have no backs left, but he wouldn't be in my 17 if everyone was fit/available and neither would there be a queue of clubs trying to steal him away from us if he were OOC this year.'"
You might be surprised.
IMO if Hall were coached and used correctly he would be one of the better centres in SL. Or even a very fine FB. At the moment he is being buggered about, partly through ineptitude and partly through necessity.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I certainly seem to have done.'" do you honestly rate craig hall as a full back cos that's were he has been playing.
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| After seeing the 19 man squad, ill have to change my 17
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| Don't you think Yeaman would be a more useful winger than Horne??
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| Quote ="FC Callum"whiting on the wing
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Hes played there a few times before, Reardon has his best games at full back from what ive seen of him.. And also having Whiting with Yeaman it will keep Gidley quiet
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"You play your most potent attacing back out of position and when he plays badly in a poor team performance you drop him.
Yup thats Agar in a nutshell.'"
He did drop the ball about 4 times though
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| Quote ="Yeamo"Don't you think Yeaman would be a more useful winger than Horne??'"
At least then he would have an excuse not to pass!!!
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| Quote ="Yeamo"Don't you think Yeaman would be a more useful winger than Horne??'"
Yeamo should concentrate on being a useful centre first.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Yeamo should concentrate on being a useful centre first.'" Think he's ran the ball in powerfully the last couple of games, just isn't running the lines he used to but considering there's no one to put him through why bother??
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| Wasn't he moved to Second Row during the Rovers game?
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| Quote ="KNOCK OFF NIGEL"Wasn't he moved to Second Row during the Rovers game?'"
G Horne was
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| Quote ="Kosh"icon_smile.gifI don't think it's wholly unreasonable. I just think that the reasons are rubbish.
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I think we've done this one to death now. You rate him and would include him on the off-chance he gets the opportunity to show his skill and pace. I wouldn't (if everyone was fit) as he puts his team mates under too much pressure with the number of mistakes he makes and weak tackling. Glad he's getting a breather tomorrow and he played very well against Wakefield last season so hoping he can reproduce that on Friday.
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Let play some rugby put a natural 13 in the correct position try Whiting at 6 good hands can kick and rugby brain
Please no more lets give TL a go at seven lets not forget his dispaly at wembley and the derbies at their ground and numerous other performances .
We won't win .
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I think we've done this one to death now. You rate him and would include him on the off-chance he gets the opportunity to show his skill and pace. I wouldn't (if everyone was fit) as he puts his team mates under too much pressure with the number of mistakes he makes and weak tackling. Glad he's getting a breather tomorrow and he played very well against Wakefield last season so hoping he can reproduce that on Friday.'"
Yet G.Horne doesnt get mentioned on this.
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| craig hall will never make it in super league will he not,he's already in it or hav'nt you noticed,,in the derby horne was crap and yeaman made a right feck up and no one at all has mentioned that,,get off the kids back unless you can do better which i bet you couldnt,,get behind the lads armchair coaches
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I think we've done this one to death now. You rate him and would include him on the off-chance he gets the opportunity to show his skill and pace. I wouldn't (if everyone was fit) as he puts his team mates under too much pressure with the number of mistakes he makes and weak tackling. Glad he's getting a breather tomorrow and he played very well against Wakefield last season so hoping he can reproduce that on Friday.'"
I admire skill. Hall has it, and it's a rarity in our squad. He demonstrates it in just about every game - he was instrumental in Briscoe's try on Friday for instance. He also cops the blame for his team mates shortcomings. The dropped ball that lead to Fox's try, for instance. That started with an absolutely dire pass from R Horne and involved an appalling missed tackle by Yeaman, yet some want to blame Hall for it.
I don't like unjust criticism.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I admire skill. Hall has it, and it's a rarity in our squad. He demonstrates it in just about every game - he was instrumental in Briscoe's try on Friday for instance. He also cops the blame for his team mates shortcomings. The dropped ball that lead to Fox's try, for instance. That started with an absolutely dire pass from R Horne and involved an appalling missed tackle by Yeaman, yet some want to blame Hall for it.
I don't like unjust criticism.'"
I agree 100%.
Move over Tommy Lee, Craig Hall is this years message board scapegoat.
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| we will miss him next season and he will come back to bite us on the ,trust me
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| Lesson #46 from the Richard Agar book of coaching:
The best way to give confidence to a player who is clearly lacking it is to drop him for the squad completely. This, at a time when we barely have enough backs to put a team together. Deary me.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I don't like unjust criticism.'"
And you moderate this board
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