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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"If you are talking about the swinging punch I think you are then our big haired friend for which this thread was started had already commited the penalty for leading with the elbow.'"
Does that make the Westwood swing OK then? Moa got sent of for a clumsy challenge, Westwood got nowt for a deliberate attack.
The inconsistency by the officials is really not helping our great game.
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| And some thought he was just poorly handled here and would go well at Wigan. The reality is he's as dumb as they come and what you see is what you get, he's a complete pudding.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Does that make the Westwood swing OK then? Moa got sent of for a clumsy challenge, Westwood got nowt for a deliberate attack.
The inconsistency by the officials is really not helping our great game.'" In this game there was no way Westwood was going to get anything the very second Krusty (I admit I can't spell his name) wasn't at least given 10 mins for attacking the head with an elbow.
Should they both have been dismissed...Possibly.
But you stated that 'How nasty was Westwoods swinging arm and his team got the penalty!!!'
So once again it is obvious why 'his team got the penalty!!!' seeing as the first offence was by 'mr big hair'.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"And some thought he was just poorly handled here and would go well at Wigan. The reality is he's as dumb as they come and what you see is what you get, he's a complete pudding.'"
Some real dumb play by Lauaki tonight he doesnt seem to have improved his discipline at all even though he looks a bit leaner.
Cost Wigan the game tonight.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Quote ="knocker norton"Does that make the Westwood swing OK then? Moa got sent of for a clumsy challenge, Westwood got nowt for a deliberate attack.
The inconsistency by the officials is really not helping our great game.'" In this game there was no way Westwood was going to get anything the very second Krusty (I admit I can't spell his name) wasn't at least given 10 mins for attacking the head with an elbow.
Should they both have been dismissed...Possibly.
But you stated that 'How nasty was Westwoods swinging arm and his team got the penalty!!!'
So once again it is obvious why 'his team got the penalty!!!' seeing as the first offence was by 'mr big hair'.'"
It used to be that penalties were reversed for retaliation. Is this no longer the case?
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| I'msure marfa will be along shortly to tell us how good he is
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| Quote ="Rock God X"It used to be that penalties were reversed for retaliation. Is this no longer the case?'" Who knows these days.
I know they were not sure if that is still the case.
Either way you are best shut of him.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"In this game there was no way Westwood was going to get anything the very second Krusty (I admit I can't spell his name) wasn't at least given 10 mins for attacking the head with an elbow.
Should they both have been dismissed...Possibly.
But you stated that 'How nasty was Westwoods swinging arm and his team got the penalty!!!'
So once again it is obvious why 'his team got the penalty!!!' seeing as the first offence was by 'mr big hair'.'"
My point is that Moa was dismissed for a clumsy shot whereas both Lauaki and especially Westwood have every intent to cause foul play.
Are you justifying the cheap shot by Westwood because Lauaki fouled first?!?!
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I'msure marfa will be along shortly to tell us how good he is'"
Just needs a bit of guidance!
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| Quote ="Rock God X"It used to be that penalties were reversed for retaliation. Is this no longer the case?'"
You may be confusing elevating a scrum to a penlaty?
I can't ever recall penalties being reversed for retaliation. Once you blow for a penalty that's the game stopped. I have blown for a penalty, sent a player from the non-offending side off for needlessly running in and then continued to give his team the penalty.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Quote ="Rock God X"It used to be that penalties were reversed for retaliation. Is this no longer the case?'" Who knows these days.
I know they were not sure if that is still the case.
Either way you are best shut of him.'"
Absolutely. Was more than glad to see the back of him.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"My point is that Moa was dismissed for a clumsy shot whereas both Lauaki and especially Westwood have every intent to cause foul play.
Are you justifying the cheap shot by Westwood because Lauaki fouled first?!?!'" No i'm not I am just stating that it is hardly a stretch to see how Warrington got the penalty due to Krusty's actions so I fail to see how you find it so hard to understand unless you think the ref should have just called play on.
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| I'm usually the first to defend referees but after tonight's performance, when added to the games I've seen him officiate in so far this season, I think Silverwood is no longer fit for purpose.
If Terry Halibut can get dropped for a maths misfunction, then Silverwood shouldn't be allowed on a pro pitch again this season.
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| I still can't believe he got a 3 year deal at Wigan after his performances for us last year. It beggars belief.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Quote ="Rock God X"It used to be that penalties were reversed for retaliation. Is this no longer the case?'"
You may be confusing elevating a scrum to a penlaty?
I can't ever recall penalties being reversed for retaliation. Once you blow for a penalty that's the game stopped. I have blown for a penalty, sent a player from the non-offending side off for needlessly running in and then continued to give his team the penalty.'"
Sure it used to happen quite a lot when I was playing, but then I played a lot more union than league. Thought it was done in both codes though.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"I'm usually the first to defend referees but after tonight's performance, when added to the games I've seen him officiate in so far this season, I think Silverwood is no longer fit for purpose.
If Terry Halibut can get dropped for a maths misfunction, then Silverwood shouldn't be allowed on a pro pitch again this season.'" True I couldn't belive he actally said 'The only reason I haven't sent you off is because he didn't land on his head' (Or words to that effect).
So only spinal injuries are classed as a sending off offence now then?
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"No i'm not I am just stating that it is hardly a stretch to see how Warrington got the penalty due to Krusty's actions so I fail to see how you find it so hard to understand unless you think the ref should have just called play on.'"
I think you are missing my point. Sam Moa got a straight red for a 'clumsy' hit or careless I think the RFL called it whereas tonight we saw both Lauaki and Westwood put in deliberate ILLEGAL shots and get nothing more then a penalty or a talking to.
Inconsistency personified.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Quote ="cod'ead"I'm usually the first to defend referees but after tonight's performance, when added to the games I've seen him officiate in so far this season, I think Silverwood is no longer fit for purpose.
If Terry Halibut can get dropped for a maths misfunction, then Silverwood shouldn't be allowed on a pro pitch again this season.'" True I couldn't belive he actally said 'The only reason I haven't sent you off is because he didn't land on his head' (Or words to that effect).
So only spinal injuries are classed as a sending off offence now then?'"
Exactly. If it's a sending off, it's a sending off - regardless of whether someone loses the ability to walk or not.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"You may be confusing elevating a scrum to a penlaty?
I can't ever recall penalties being reversed for retaliation. Once you blow for a penalty that's the game stopped. I have blown for a penalty, sent a player from the non-offending side off for needlessly running in and then continued to give his team the penalty.'" TBH I have seen to happen to teams I have been playing for a few times.
My arguement ran along the lines of 'But they still commited the fist offence SIR', but they never changed their minds about it though.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"I think you are missing my point. Sam Moa got a straight red for a 'clumsy' hit or careless I think the RFL called it whereas tonight we saw both Lauaki and Westwood put in deliberate ILLEGAL shots and get nothing more then a penalty or a talking to.
Inconsistency personified.'" I agree with all that but I cant understand why you said 'How nasty was Westwoods swinging arm and his team got the penalty!!!'.
That seems to indicate that you couldn't understand how Warrington got the penalty when it was quite clear.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Exactly. If it's a sending off, it's a sending off - regardless of whether someone loses the ability to walk or not.'" I bet Phil Clarkes face was a picture when he heard him say that
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| Silverwood did a cracking comedy performance for sport relief , in place of a competant match official
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"I agree with all that but I cant understand why you said 'How nasty was Westwoods swinging arm and his team got the penalty!!!'.
That seems to indicate that you couldn't understand how Warrington got the penalty when it was quite clear.'"
I understand how Wire got the penalty but I dont see how such a deliberate attempt to injure a player like the Westwood swing can be under stated. It was a nasty cheap shot on the back of an illegal shot by lauaki.
Had a jaw been broken then I guess this chat may have gone further...
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| Quote ="knocker norton"I understand how Wire got the penalty but I dont see how such a deliberate attempt to injure a player like the Westwood swing can be under stated. It was a nasty cheap shot on the back of an illegal shot by lauaki.
Had a jaw been broken then I guess this chat may have gone further...'" TBH I don't think anyone is understating it.
Westwood is a nasty cheap shot merchant and always has been but this thread is about L....However you spell his name.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Quote ="Rock God X"Exactly. If it's a sending off, it's a sending off - regardless of whether someone loses the ability to walk or not.'" I bet Phil Clarkes face was a picture when he heard him say that
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Clarkey probably agreed with Silverwood because Lauaki plays for Wigan.
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