Lets have a heated debate



Connor's best position is fb according to Hodgson. He utilises the time and space to create moments of brilliance however his lack of pace leaves him exposed in defence from time to time.

At stand off has he ever been as effective as he has been at fb?

Connor can play centre but will this restrict his creativity even if he has this so called roaming role?

Hoy's favoured position is fb but can play stand off.

There's also the possibility that Walker may be retained.

It's a conundrum.

Given his attitude and that he still wants out, preferably a position not at this club.

Ok then. Lets start another heated debate. Who should replace him?

What is this post based on? Serious question, where has it been said he wants away. I stated recently on another thread and mooted it elsewhere, I think he’d make an excellent free roaming loose man. This would certainly accommodate the new players coming in, especially if we retain Smith.

I'd be surprised if he had more than 3 games in a row at stand off, that's where I'd play him. Think he has a better skills set than Hoy to play there and vice versa.

Prop.

Seriously though I'm not sure where this attitude or want away thing has come from. Honestly I've never seen reason to question his commitment. Yes, he occasionally gets frustrated when it isn't going his way and tries to force things a but I've never seen him throw the towel in.

Walker = full back
Connor = centre
Hoy & Trueman = half backs

Its an interesting one as all his best attacking performances have come at fullback BUT he's played a lot more games in a stretch there than halfback where he's just tended to fill in so its hard to make a decent comparison.
I think if we had someone else with decent hands who can make that link with outside backs he'd look a lot more effective at halfback.
With our current personnel I'd say fullback but next year, who knows.

Looking at the build up of the team for next season it has to be centre but with a big piece of duct tape accross his mouth.
That said if Tuimavave is fit and we have Wynne and Mitch for the left centre position then Armavinit may have a point about using him as a 13 but with double duct tape accross his mouth

It’s based on what one of our players has been saying.
He (Connor) can’t see himself winning trophies at this club.

Think it’s quite common knowledge that he was on his way to Canberra until they pulled the plug.

Tbf he is right we are nowhere near wining trophies even with the signings we have next season. Personally centre next season but with the option of roaming when he feels the opportunity arries

The amount and type of defending he’d have to do in the middle might blunt his effectiveness with ball in hand. I’d enjoy seeing props run at him for 80 minutes.

1 or 6 are where I’d least like to see him playing against us. 6 maybe just edges it.

This looks good to me although we still have to confirm Walker for next season and of course the chances of all being available for an extended run are slim.

Depends also of course if Will Smith signs up.

Too true.

For this reason I would sign Smith and then we will have quality cover for any of those missing which as we all know will be at least one of them



Hopefully we keep Walker also but I would have thought that the deadline for that would have passed by now so we should be hearing something soon

I wouldn't use our last quota place on a a utility player nor matter how well Smith does. I'd use it on a second row or centre.

Yeah but he is a class utility player that can bring something different and make things happen.

If he doesn’t start he would definitely be on the bench for me.

Personally I would rather have him than Lovodua if he isn’t going to play hooker which is what he was brought here to do?

Agree, and bring in a specialist hooker to replace him.

Connor has been an excellent player for Hull and very loyal, as I'm sure he has had offers from clubs. I wouldn't blame he if he left Hull for a club with better chances of winning something or a crack at the NRL.

Think we need to enjoy him while we have him, maybe the club already know this and why we are looking at Walker and Smith.

Fullback

One match at Cas not so long ago, Jake was sublime at centre, he was on the right edge, admittedly he had Albert & Ratu finishing off his classy passes and movement. He was outstanding that evening at centre all evening. A pleasure to be there.

Although I’d very much like him to be a halfback, he’s not quite nailed it there for me, as a few good men have said, this roaming role, attacking from behind the pack, and defending out wide has mileage in it. I’ve no worries about props and forwards running at him in the middle, it is what most teams try to do, isolate the weakest defenders, Mikey Lewis, Sneyd, etc, if we are keeping young Jack centre/loose forward for me.

I’d play Jake at Loose Forward.

It would give him licence to join the line where he wants and create the chances he does.

We don’t have a ball handling Loose Forward and we need more pace at Full Back and Centre.

Hoy has to play full back

Connor stand off
Trueman scrum half

Smith/lovodua hooker bench

Wouldn't keep walker he's done ok but isn't better than hoy or Connor so would be a downgrade

Walker will end up in the championship cause he can't get in at Leeds either hence why he's here

I’d keep Smith over Lovodua, as it stands.

Really need to see Lovodua at 9, to see if he’s up to it. I think he’s already staying anyway.

I like Walker, but with Litten in the background I can’t see us keeping him.

Probably no.6 (in a Warrington shirt)

The position Lovodua will play isca bigger concern than where Connor will play.