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| I'm a westy fan generally before I start
Right. I knew he wasn't down to play last week. Has a drink. Fair one generally speaking. But..big but though. If you're going let loose n get plastered then you must,absolutely must as a pro sportsman turn up and perform afterwards.
That's as bad a performance I can recall from a player wearing my teams colours.
Radford though should of recognised 20 mins minimum earlier thar he needed rescuing. Westy killed us tonight!
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| More to this than what's been declared by Westerman and the club, I'll wager.
Players of his calibre don't play that badly for no obvious reason. Unless there is a reason.
Sick to death of the apparent politics going on at our club.
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| On his way?
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| Quote ="WormInHand"More to this than what's been declared by Westerman and the club, I'll wager.
Players of his calibre don't play that badly for no obvious reason. Unless there is a reason.
Sick to death of the apparent politics going on at our club.'"
I agree, something amiss either at the club or in his home life...while he's never been the most consistent of players that was by far his worst display.
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| Definitely not his best game, but for balance, it didn't seem to be down to lack of effort. 45 tackles is a big effort defensively. And despite the fact he clearly wasn't on his game going forward he didn't go into hiding.
He's an important player for us IMO. Hopefully just a bad day at the office.
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| Quote ="Mars"Definitely not his best game, but for balance, it didn't seem to be down to lack of effort. 45 tackles is a big effort defensively. And despite the fact he clearly wasn't on his game going forward he didn't go into hiding.
He's an important player for us IMO. Hopefully just a bad day at the office.'"
Very bad day. But Radford should of seen earlier. Got him off and jigged it up. Not let him carry on getting worse.
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| Quote ="airliebird,runninglate!"Very bad day. But Radford should of seen earlier. Got him off and jigged it up. Not let him carry on getting worse.'"
Exactly, Westy was having a mare and Radders should have subbed him.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"On his way?'"
Yes , They can take him now . But cup tied !!
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| Quote ="Mars"Definitely not his best game, but for balance, it didn't seem to be down to lack of effort. 45 tackles is a big effort defensively. And despite the fact he clearly wasn't on his game going forward he didn't go into hiding.
He's an important player for us IMO. Hopefully just a bad day at the office.'"
There is balance in everything, your right it was a good defensive effort.
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| Rankin should have been 7 Shaul 1 and Abdull bench or 13.
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| Surprised Kosh hasn't been on to tell everyone he had a great game, and it's only because he cost so much money that you're all slagging him off!
Terrible signing overall, and nothing to do with the price tag. Can't wait for Abdul to take his place.
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| Quote ="Raggytash"Surprised Kosh hasn't been on to tell everyone he had a great game, and it's only because he cost so much money that you're all slagging him off!
Terrible signing overall, and nothing to do with the price tag. Can't wait for Abdul to take his place.'"
Awww, bless. Did you miss me?
Westerman's handling was awful last night and there's something clearly not right with him. That said, at least he put himself in the right position to drop those passes and made 45 tackles in the evening.
Abdul, OTOH, made fewer errors but demonstrated a dismal kicking game which was supposed to be one of his strengths. Not his best game either and, like Westerman, he's capable of better.
Still - you keep telling yourself your hatred of Westy has nothing to do with his price tag if it makes you feel better.
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| Quote ="Ellam"Rankin should have been 7 Shaul 1 and Abdull bench or 13.'"
Completely agree, we had no pace. Sat in the west last night quite close to pitch, could not believe the size of Abdul, 13 all day long. Westerman Leeds bound next season, its my only explanation, like others have said, should of been taken of much earlier, but with the options on bench, probably wouldt of made much difference. Totally gutted with that performance
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| I don't agree with some of the crowd cheering when he got substituted yes he had a bad game but that is not called for.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Awww, bless. Did you miss me?
Westerman's handling was awful last night and there's something clearly not right with him. That said, at least he put himself in the right position to drop those passes and made 45 tackles in the evening.
Abdul, OTOH, made fewer errors but demonstrated a dismal kicking game which was supposed to be one of his strengths. Not his best game either and, like Westerman, he's capable of better.
Still - you keep telling yourself your hatred of Westy has nothing to do with his price tag if it makes you feel better.'"
I don't dislike Westerman. I really wanted him to be a success, and I think he's a funny guy. Spoke to him on Watt's phone in Fuerteventura. I am quite capable of liking someone, but thinking they're not good enough to play loose forward for Hull. If anything, my liking of the bloke has made me give him more chances than I usually would.
My opinion of his performances has as much to do with his pricetag, as your love for him has to do with his shapely buttocks. Neither are strictly speaking credible - but my assertion is closer to the truth.
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| Quote ="Raggytash"I don't dislike Westerman. I really wanted him to be a success, and I think he's a funny guy. Spoke to him on Watt's phone in Fuerteventura. I am quite capable of liking someone, but thinking they're not good enough to play loose forward for Hull. If anything, my liking of the bloke has made me give him more chances than I usually would.
My opinion of his performances has as much to do with his pricetag, [uas your love for him has to do with his shapely buttocks.[/u Neither are strictly speaking credible - but my assertion is closer to the truth.'"
Watch it, Raggy. You'll be inflaming the jealous passions of East Hull FC Fan, or whatever he's called now.
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| Always been a fan but hes a penalty machine and massively inconsistent and tbh i think we need to get rid for both of our sakes
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| Taking away last night I've said before that if we get an offer we should sell him, will benefit the club and him.
Abdul will be a better player for Hull IMO.
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| Westerman hasn't played well all season. I'm wondering if someone got inside his head on the international tour. You know the sort of thing; "if you come and play for us you'll get double the wages and win things" etc etc. Just a thought.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Taking away last night I've said before that if we get an offer we should sell him, will benefit the club and him.
Abdul will be a better player for Hull IMO.'"
Yes , cash in on him . Garbage this season.
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| my favourite player in an Fc shirt when he has a good game. Just aren't enough good games.
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| Quote ="Raggytash"I don't dislike Westerman. I really wanted him to be a success, and I think he's a funny guy. Spoke to him on Watt's phone in Fuerteventura. I am quite capable of liking someone, but thinking they're not good enough to play loose forward for Hull. If anything, my liking of the bloke has made me give him more chances than I usually would.
My opinion of his performances has as much to do with his pricetag, as your love for him has to do with his shapely buttocks. Neither are strictly speaking credible - but my assertion is closer to the truth.'"
Then you have an odd method of assessing worth. Westerman was one of our best players last year and earned an England call-up. This year he's lacked game time due to a serious injury and is struggling to get back to form but suddenly he's always been cr@p and we should get rid in favour of a promising youngster who's yet to prove he has what it takes at this level?
Even during last night's dropsy-ridden performance he was one of the few players running good lines, hitting holes, and making busts. He may have bombed a load chances but at least he was in the right position to create them in the first place. And he put in a huge defensive stint with 45 tackles. But some can only see the bad stuff I guess.
Was his performance of the required standard? Clearly not, as he's said himself. Is he capable of the required standard? History says yes he is and a lot more also. But let's just sack him off after half an injury-blighted season and one very poor game, eh?
This is why we can't have nice things.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Then you have an odd method of assessing worth. Westerman was one of our best players last year and earned an England call-up. This year he's lacked game time due to a serious injury and is struggling to get back to form but suddenly he's always been cr@p and we should get rid in favour of a promising youngster who's yet to prove he has what it takes at this level?
Even during last night's dropsy-ridden performance he was one of the few players running good lines, hitting holes, and making busts. He may have bombed a load chances but at least he was in the right position to create them in the first place. And he put in a huge defensive stint with 45 tackles. But some can only see the bad stuff I guess.
Was his performance of the required standard? Clearly not, as he's said himself. Is he capable of the required standard? History says yes he is and a lot more also. But let's just sack him off after half an injury-blighted season and one very poor game, eh?
This is why we can't have nice things.'"
A decent post, but in the 4 years or so ghe has been at Hull I would say he has had two good seasons his first and last year, I reckon he has player well in less than 50% of the games he has played. I have been a big fan if his and really want him to reach his potential on a consistent basis, but I just think he will do at Hull. If we can get a fee and use his salary elsewhere then I think it would benefit the club and put is in. A better position, which is what we all want.
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| Quote ="Dave K."A decent post, but in the 4 years or so ghe has been at Hull I would say he has had two good seasons his first and last year, I reckon he has player well in less than 50% of the games he has played. I have been a big fan if his and really want him to reach his potential on a consistent basis, but I just think he will do at Hull. If we can get a fee and use his salary elsewhere then I think it would benefit the club and put is in. A better position, which is what we all want.'"
Last season was the first where he was played in a role that suits him, and he blossomed. This season his role has changed slightly (not saying that's wrong BTW) and he has had a serious injury. I don't see any evidence that he can't be the player we need since he was exactly that last season. I'd rather have him playing for us than against us, especially as we're already losing two of our better players.
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| Can't understand why westerman is getting all the flak at least he put himself about yeah he dropped the ball but that happens the question that should be asked is we're was pryce
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